Is Logic Pro The Perfect DAW Or Are There Things To Improve?

[cryophonik]

After all these year it would be really nice if we could re-arrange channels in the mixer.

Yeah, that's by far the biggest gripe I have with Logic. Like I said, allow simple click/drag in both the arrange and mix windows, and have them automatically mirror each other (but, keep the option to have them separate for those crazy people who don't want them sync'ed ). I will never understand their "logic" for having this illogical behavior that every other DAW has.

[Serhii Kot]

Logic is pretty far from a perfect DAW, at least for me. Here are some reasons:
1. No Plugin search
2. No Macros
3. No Nesting "Summing Folders"
4. No Bus names in the inspector.
5. Can not Export stems with send fx
6. Not cross-platform

Nitpicking much?

No, I just know what "best" DAW must have for me. It is quite hard to return to logic after Studio One has spoiled you in terms of speed and workflow. I worked extensively in both of them, so I have a good perspective.

[Passing Bye]

Logic is pretty far from a perfect DAW, at least for me. Here are some reasons:
1. No Plugin search
2. No Macros
3. No Nesting "Summing Folders"
4. No Bus names in the inspector.
5. Can not Export stems with send fx
6. Not cross-platform

Nitpicking much?

No, I just know what "best" DAW must have for me. It is quite hard to return to logic after Studio One has spoiled you in terms of speed and workflow. I worked extensively in both of them, so I have a good perspective.

If that is only things that is spoiling your fun, you are pretty much golden in Logic, I have bigger list myself what Bitwig doesn't have over Logic, but that doesn't stop me from working in it, don't expect every DAW will be 1:1 as Logic and than something more, but hey...

[pbognar]

No chord track.

[jancivil]

the connection with VE Pro is still problematic. Some still want to deal with it. but this means a hard no as to perfection.
We use multiple MIDI Ports, which Logic is not built to handle at all well. There are other things I don't like about it but I don't have any interest in a slagfest, it's a capable DAW many people are getting it done in.

[machinesworking]

the connection with VE Pro is still problematic. Some still want to deal with it. but this means a hard no as to perfection.
We use multiple MIDI Ports, which Logic is not built to handle at all well. There are other things I don't like about it but I don't have any interest in a slagfest, it's a capable DAW many people are getting it done in.

To Logic and Apples credit the last update to Logic (10.7 I believe) introduced multiple MIDI input ports, which should make it capable of more than 16 tracks into VEP without going into the environment with a complicated workaround. It’s weird to think of this as a “feature” though because every DAW besides logic has been capable of this since day one. DP with the dedicate MAS plug in can get over 700 inputs from a single plug in!

[apoclypse]

the connection with VE Pro is still problematic. Some still want to deal with it. but this means a hard no as to perfection.
We use multiple MIDI Ports, which Logic is not built to handle at all well. There are other things I don't like about it but I don't have any interest in a slagfest, it's a capable DAW many people are getting it done in.

To Logic and Apples credit the last update to Logic (10.7 I believe) introduced multiple MIDI input ports, which should make it capable of more than 16 tracks into VEP without going into the environment with a complicated workaround. It’s weird to think of this as a “feature” though because every DAW besides logic has been capable of this since day one. DP with the dedicate MAS plug in can get over 700 inputs from a single plug in!

At the same time its actually kind of cool that Apple is addressing some of these issues. There was a time where it seemed like Apple wasn't listening to user requests at all. Now it seems they are at least keeping an ear out to some of the issues brought up over the years. In general it seems like Apple is walking back a lot of the policies that pissed pros off over the years. They are now allowing users to repair their own devices, even supplying parts for repair. Hell just froze over.

[machinesworking]

the connection with VE Pro is still problematic. Some still want to deal with it. but this means a hard no as to perfection.
We use multiple MIDI Ports, which Logic is not built to handle at all well. There are other things I don't like about it but I don't have any interest in a slagfest, it's a capable DAW many people are getting it done in.

To Logic and Apples credit the last update to Logic (10.7 I believe) introduced multiple MIDI input ports, which should make it capable of more than 16 tracks into VEP without going into the environment with a complicated workaround. It’s weird to think of this as a “feature” though because every DAW besides logic has been capable of this since day one. DP with the dedicate MAS plug in can get over 700 inputs from a single plug in!

At the same time its actually kind of cool that Apple is addressing some of these issues. There was a time where it seemed like Apple wasn't listening to user requests at all. Now it seems they are at least keeping an ear out to some of the issues brought up over the years. In general it seems like Apple is walking back a lot of the policies that pissed pros off over the years. They are now allowing users to repair their own devices, even supplying parts for repair. Hell just froze over.

Sorry I wasn't trying to sound like it isn't appreciated, it was my main gripe with Logic when messing around with it coming back from DP and Live. Logic is an Amazing DAW at this point, and yeah, the fact they addressed it says a lot, obviously they did it at the same time they made Logic MIDI 2.0 compliant, so they're on a roll. Hopefully they steal DP's ability to move articulation/expression mapping forward just a bit to fix issues some libraries have with changing on the fly like that, that would be another pro fix!

[ValliSoftware]

No chord track.

Learn scripter.
Here's a prototype I did with scripter. This includes my original chord track code where I can supply actual MIDI chords but now I just make it more fun, now I can specify chord positions from a scale.
Not only can I change the chord position, I can choose from 167 chord formulas, 1584 scales and make changes every beat or half beat like in this video.


So I just cycle the project then just move the MIDI regions around, set chord formulas and/or set to different scalles to see what I can come up with, all in real time.

[antic604]

No chord track.

Learn scripter.
Here's a prototype I did with scripter...

And this is better from native features that S1 or Cubase have how?

[machinesworking]

No chord track.

Learn scripter.
Here's a prototype I did with scripter...

And this is better from native features that S1 or Cubase have how?

I don't see where he wrote it's better?

[xbitz]

but pros says FL Studio is the best just seen it

I'm totally confused now stupid youtube

★ TABLE OF CONTENTS ★
• Pro Tools
• Cakewalk by Bandlab
• Apple Logic Pro X
• Steinberg Cubase
• Presonus Studio One
• Ableton Live
• Image Line FL Studio

[Serhii Kot]

If that is only things that is spoiling your fun, you are pretty much golden in Logic, I have bigger list myself what Bitwig doesn't have over Logic, but that doesn't stop me from working in it, don't expect every DAW will be 1:1 as Logic and than something more, but hey...

My point was, that no DAW is perfect and I just said why Logic is not perfect for me. Not for you or anyone else.

Logic is great. I have made 300+ tracks there. And occasionally work there now. But perfect? Far from that, as all DAWs.

[tehlord]

but pros says FL Studio is the best just seen it

I'm totally confused now stupid youtube

Can we just all agree that any Youtuber with a thumbnail like that is just a cvnt.

[antic604]

No chord track.

Learn scripter.
Here's a prototype I did with scripter...

And this is better from native features that S1 or Cubase have how?

I don't see where he wrote it's better?

No, he didn't. But he presented a workaround as a stand-in for missing feature in a discussion about "perfect DAW". Perfect DAW doesn't need workarounds, that only small minority knows how to use. And I'm not trying to suggest C1 or Cubase are better or more perfect, just trying to understand if the workaround is actually better than built-in native feature, in which case it would perhaps justify it being there.

Anyway, there's no perfect DAW, at least no objectively perfect.