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Gadget Fiend wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:24 am Sure, Studio One has always had MIDI features that are far superior to what's in Pro Tools (another audio-focused recorder). But I don't see a lot of additional development in Studio One on the MIDI side going forward.
You have a point here. In its current form, I’m not sure really what else can be added to its MIDI side. It pretty much does almost everything you need it to.
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Gadget Fiend wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:24 am If Fender ends up having any influence over the Studio One roadmap, it will likely be to encourage a return to Studio One's roots as an audio-focused digital recorder and not a MIDI songwriting tool. After all, Fender makes guitars, basses, amps, etc. People who play these instruments don't need a lot of advanced MIDI functions for the most part.

Sure, Studio One has always had MIDI features that are far superior to what's in Pro Tools (another audio-focused recorder). But I don't see a lot of additional development in Studio One on the MIDI side going forward.
For midi features just look at FL Studio. You got 11 years old doing tutorials making music with it lol. Crazy.

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EnochLight wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:26 am You have a point here. In its current form, I’m not sure really what else can be added to its MIDI side. It pretty much does almost everything you need it to.
As far as I know, Studio One still doesn't...

1. Allow for more than one MIDI channel per track
2. Support 14-bit CC's
3. Support Sysex (I don't believe it supports NRPS or MTC either)
4. MPE support with VST3 instruments

...and did they ever add polyphonic aftertouch outside of MPE (example: for e-drum chokes)?

Feel free to correct the above if I'm wrong. I've been using Reaper fulltime lately. I don't have a crazy MIDI setup, but I've hit walls with Studio One's MIDI implementation due to some of the issues above.

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:17 pm
4. MPE support with VST3 instruments
That one was added in a recentish update - otherwise I wouldn't have upgraded

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EnochLight wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:26 am
Gadget Fiend wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:24 am Sure, Studio One has always had MIDI features that are far superior to what's in Pro Tools (another audio-focused recorder). But I don't see a lot of additional development in Studio One on the MIDI side going forward.
You have a point here. In its current form, I’m not sure really what else can be added to its MIDI side. It pretty much does almost everything you need it to.
Depends what you mean by "MIDI". If you mean MIDI composition tools, sure, it can do all sorts of things, but there's a ton of additional development that could be done in improving the user experience of using those tools.

- Real time feedback from the editing dialogs a la FL Studio

- Turn all those separate dialog boxes and the "Composition" macro toolbar from mid-v4 into an integrated part of the piano roll. Take some cues from Melodyne and FL Studio. As it is it's just a giant list of functions with set parameters and it feels very... REAPER++.

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EnochLight wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:26 am You have a point here. In its current form, I’m not sure really what else can be added to its MIDI side. It pretty much does almost everything you need it to.
Well, there are lots of tools that could improve midi editing, like strum, right now you have to move notes by hand. Also a way to split notes on a diagonal, transform tool for velocity and many others.
Right now Studio One has the basic stuff when it comes to midi editing.

By the way, they are not using the midi standard and it's something they created themselves. Would be nice to be able to use midi fx like Cthulhu or BlueArp. Right now you have to create separate tracks and link them, also arm record and monitor the right track. In one word, it's quite a hassle.

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nIGhT-SoN wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:41 pm
EnochLight wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:26 am You have a point here. In its current form, I’m not sure really what else can be added to its MIDI side. It pretty much does almost everything you need it to.
By the way, they are not using the midi standard and it's something they created themselves. Would be nice to be able to use midi fx like Cthulhu or BlueArp. Right now you have to create separate tracks and link them, also arm record and monitor the right track. In one word, it's quite a hassle.
Unless something has changed, its the same in Cubase and in Cakewalk.
What ever!

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I got an email back from someone who works for Fender. Do you want to know what this person said?

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From gearnews

"Were it not for the overwhelming success of the Studio One DAW software system, it seems unlikely that an acquisition of this nature would have taken place. The move is certainly an exciting prospect for Studio One users, as there will be interesting developments on the horizon, but this could also be the first of many acquisitions for Fender, as they continue to diversify into the world of music production software and DSP solutions. Nevertheless, it is an interesting shift in the market, and we’ll keep an eye on the Fender newsroom feed in the next few months."

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D.Wako wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 12:03 am
nIGhT-SoN wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:41 pm
EnochLight wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:26 am You have a point here. In its current form, I’m not sure really what else can be added to its MIDI side. It pretty much does almost everything you need it to.
By the way, they are not using the midi standard and it's something they created themselves. Would be nice to be able to use midi fx like Cthulhu or BlueArp. Right now you have to create separate tracks and link them, also arm record and monitor the right track. In one word, it's quite a hassle.
Unless something has changed, its the same in Cubase and in Cakewalk.
just was curious till now this routing crashed S1
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MIDI to the insert (Patchwork, first row BA, second nothing) then back to the container through direct input, not tested just proof of concept ...at least not crashed S1 instantly
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There is no reason to be pessimistic for me yet 😀
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PreSonus has Studio One upgrades on sale for 30% off right now (until 29 November).

https://shop.presonus.com/studio-one
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You can get it even cheaper on retailers (Plugin Boutique, or JRRShop).

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nIGhT-SoN wrote: Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:41 pm
EnochLight wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:26 am You have a point here. In its current form, I’m not sure really what else can be added to its MIDI side. It pretty much does almost everything you need it to.
Well, there are lots of tools that could improve midi editing, like strum, right now you have to move notes by hand. Also a way to split notes on a diagonal, transform tool for velocity and many others.
Right now Studio One has the basic stuff when it comes to midi editing.

By the way, they are not using the midi standard and it's something they created themselves. Would be nice to be able to use midi fx like Cthulhu or BlueArp. Right now you have to create separate tracks and link them, also arm record and monitor the right track. In one word, it's quite a hassle.
... just like in every single other DAW I ever tried... apart from Reaper, which has a nice system with their "Input FX" thing.

BTW, saying that S1 is not using the MIDI standard isn't quite correct, I think. It translates MIDI to its internal system. Again, like many other DAW's do as well, I think. Otherwise they couldn't use a finer resolution.

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chk071 wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 8:38 pm You can get it even cheaper on retailers (Plugin Boutique, or JRRShop).
How? It's currently the same price at PB and JRR as it is at PreSonus, and JRR is claiming no coupon codes when you try to purchase. Can't find any for PB as well.
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