Synapse Audio - Dune 3.5 Released

[Teksonik]

I meant a more focussed way of applying Genetics in the MM. I already know that it works there, I just think it could be better than it is now. Blame it on my brevity

Can you help me understand what a more focussed way of applying Genetics in the MM would entail? Not sure if I'm getting the concept and we can blame that on my thick skull...

Genetics is a great idea, random not so much, unless you can apply some constraints, in which case you're halfway to making the patch anyway.

Exactly in regards to Randomize. By the time someone figures out what they want to Randomize and what constraints to impose they might as well make their own patch.

I think we should be encouraging people to learn how to program DUNE 3 for themselves instead of giving them training wheels and crutches.

When we initialize a patch in D3 we are presented with the simplest synth patch possible and it makes a great starting point for learning the basics of synthesis. Then of course we can go miles beyond that as our skills and understanding of the options and architecture grow.

You and I and many others in this thread already know the joys of starting with INIT and ending up with a cool sounding patch that fits our needs. It's very satisfying and yields sounds that we like and will use without relying on the random results of some algorithm.

[Touch The Universe]

So who picked up D3 for BF?

[Yorrrrrr]

A note on Multithreading on M1. All M1 cpus are currently divided into "performance" and "efficiency" cores. At this point we do not know exactly what the impact of this is regarding plugin multithreading. We could end up rendering some voices on an efficiency core, which may slow down things. Perhaps we should set MT=off on M1 by default, if it isn't already.

Richard

I'm getting lower CPU usage with multithreading enabled (default) on my new MBP 14" M1 Pro chip. BUT, I've noticed some random spikes that seem to go away with MT off. So, MT off seems to be the better option in my case.

[pdxindy]

A note on Multithreading on M1 (currently defaults to on). All M1 cpus are currently divided into "performance" and "efficiency" cores. At this point we do not know exactly what the impact of this is regarding plugin multithreading. We could end up rendering some voices on an efficiency core, which may slow down things. Perhaps we should set MT=off on M1 by default, if it isn't already.

Richard

Seems like off by default on M1 is a good choice... I have a project running at 96khz. I just put an instance of Dune 3.5, picked a layered pad, set the modulation rate to Audio Rate/Highest CPU just to push the cpu and still got active voices up to 36.

With Normal modulation rate I made a layered pad with 120 active voices @96khz and did not max one core. So 90+ percent of the time on this machine (M1-Pro CPU) multithreading will not be needed.

[carrieres]

I'm getting lower CPU usage with multithreading enabled (default) on my new MBP 14" M1 Pro chip.

yes, because the number of performance core is different between M1 and M1 pro

[AnX]

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I think we should be encouraging people to learn how to program DUNE 3 for themselves instead of giving them training wheels and crutches.

Well, I always say that too, about any synth but....

Some ppl need sounds in a hurry for projects, or like to pick a sound and tweak to suit....

Some just don't want to spend time learning synthesis, they want to write songs....

Some are plain lazy and want to be spoon fed....

For me, it's easy and fast, been doing it since 1980 on hardware....and I really enjoy it.... for others it's a chore

So I guess you have to allow for all things to be considered...

[vurt]

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I think we should be encouraging people to learn how to program DUNE 3 for themselves instead of giving them training wheels and crutches.

Well, I always say that too, about any synth but....

Some ppl need sounds in a hurry for projects, or like to pick a sound and tweak to suit....

Some just don't want to spend time learning synthesis, they want to write songs....

Some are plain lazy and want to be spoon fed....

For me, it's easy and fast, been doing it since 1980 on hardware....and I really enjoy it.... for others it's a chore

So I guess you have to allow for all things to be considered...

theres also the challenge aspect, im gonna write a track with the first 5 randomised presets no matter what!

can be fun, you guys remember "fun"?

[sqigls]

So who picked up D3 for BF?

[raises hand]

is there any way to make any selected preset the default preset?

[Touch The Universe]

Fun, drink energy drinks, keyboard, teaspoon syrup.

[Touch The Universe]

So who picked up D3 for BF?

[raises hand]

is there any way to make any selected preset the default preset?

I give you free soundset Earthsine, give me your email

[Yorrrrrr]

A note on Multithreading on M1. All M1 cpus are currently divided into "performance" and "efficiency" cores. At this point we do not know exactly what the impact of this is regarding plugin multithreading. We could end up rendering some voices on an efficiency core, which may slow down things. Perhaps we should set MT=off on M1 by default, if it isn't already.

Richard

Richard, take a look at this: https://eclecticlight.co/2021/11/26/how ... llocation/

[AnX]

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I think we should be encouraging people to learn how to program DUNE 3 for themselves instead of giving them training wheels and crutches.

Well, I always say that too, about any synth but....

Some ppl need sounds in a hurry for projects, or like to pick a sound and tweak to suit....

Some just don't want to spend time learning synthesis, they want to write songs....

Some are plain lazy and want to be spoon fed....

For me, it's easy and fast, been doing it since 1980 on hardware....and I really enjoy it.... for others it's a chore

So I guess you have to allow for all things to be considered...

theres also the challenge aspect, im gonna write a track with the first 5 randomised presets no matter what!

can be fun, you guys remember "fun"?

I'm having it right now...

[cytospur]

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I think we should be encouraging people to learn how to program DUNE 3 for themselves instead of giving them training wheels and crutches.

Well, I always say that too, about any synth but....

Some ppl need sounds in a hurry for projects, or like to pick a sound and tweak to suit....

Some just don't want to spend time learning synthesis, they want to write songs....

Some are plain lazy and want to be spoon fed....

For me, it's easy and fast, been doing it since 1980 on hardware....and I really enjoy it.... for others it's a chore

So I guess you have to allow for all things to be considered...

theres also the challenge aspect, im gonna write a track with the first 5 randomised presets no matter what!

can be fun, you guys remember "fun"?

I'm having it right now...

Are you on the Malibu and pineapple again?

[AnX]

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I think we should be encouraging people to learn how to program DUNE 3 for themselves instead of giving them training wheels and crutches.

Well, I always say that too, about any synth but....

Some ppl need sounds in a hurry for projects, or like to pick a sound and tweak to suit....

Some just don't want to spend time learning synthesis, they want to write songs....

Some are plain lazy and want to be spoon fed....

For me, it's easy and fast, been doing it since 1980 on hardware....and I really enjoy it.... for others it's a chore

So I guess you have to allow for all things to be considered...

theres also the challenge aspect, im gonna write a track with the first 5 randomised presets no matter what!

can be fun, you guys remember "fun"?

I'm having it right now...

Are you on the Malibu and pineapple again?

Well, it is Friday...

[Richard_Synapse]

Richard, take a look at this: https://eclecticlight.co/2021/11/26/how ... llocation/

Thanks Yorrrrrr, interesting in-depth article! Note on our M1s we did not notice multithreading using any efficiency cores, so it works as it should. We are just not sure yet if this is always guaranteed, and how future M1 chips will deal with plugin MT.

Richard