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LeVzi
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4111 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:20 am

I bought a preset pack from Sonic Academy for Kick 2 and when I went through it, there were so many clicks n so forth, the pack was rubbish.

So I told them about it, and was pretty annoying tbh

a) they denied they could hear the issues
b) I sent audio files from rendered preset with the clicks in them and they still denied it.

I guess they simply don't believe me, because this pack is utter rubbish.

Anyone else get issues like this with packs ? First time it's happened to me tbh.
"T!ts McGee"

gaggle of hermits
KVRist
401 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:29 am

oh, my sides.
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LeVzi
KVRAF

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4111 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:16 pm

I'm talking about clicks like zero crossover problems, the type you get from cutting audio etc.

Right in the middle of the kick, not the click on the transient.
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Mr Arkadin
KVRAF
1905 posts since 11 Mar, 2003

Post Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:40 pm

Which packs? I have some but haven't tried them all yet.

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LeVzi
KVRAF

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4111 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:44 am

Its a techno kick pack Vol 5
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KVRist
401 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:47 am

you're in luck. I've got that one. which preset(s)? or are we supposed to hunt through all 50?

Viktor [TUC]
KVRian
500 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 2:58 am

I happen to have that one as well, was part of a bundle that I recently got.
And yes, a couple of kicks end in clicks (SA Techno 03, 12, perhaps more). Unfortunate envelope settings. Easy to fix, but still ...

gaggle of hermits
KVRist
401 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:57 am

I think we may be using different definitions of click here (and sample). I just loaded up techno 03 and can't detect an obvious click and can't find one at all in 12. do you mean where the envelope finishes so the sub layer cuts out and the samples seem to continue? because their aren't actual detectable clicks in those individual layers that I can find and the only possible source I can identify in 03 is a possible conflict between the layer settings, which would be fixed by changing the click-layer envelopes or adjusting the synthesised sub layer slightly.

I'm having trouble working out what the actual problem is here.

Viktor [TUC]
KVRian
500 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:39 am

Well, I can't say if that's the same thing that the OP reported. For me, those "thuds" at the end of these aforementioned kicks would have been worthy of the label "click". It's down to the amp envelope settings. Like you already said, the sub layer ends abruptly and doesn't fade out, resulting in a small click/thud type of thing.
Easy fix, as I said, but personally I'd say that should have been caught before release by the creator of that pack.

recursive one
KVRAF
5646 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:49 am

Not sure if this is relevant to the thread but it happened to me that Kick2 presets created on another PC loaded wrongly (they didn't sound as intended).

Maybe that's the actual issue here?
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KVRist
401 posts since 18 Jul, 2021

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:14 am

I think it might well be that. I’m not getting a thud off the presets I’ve tried - this is on OS X. so there may be some latent bug. one thing i noticed was that on 03 the sample layers all had their length set to max in the preset. I could see something like that triggering this kind of bug.

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VELLTONE MUSIC
KVRian
1373 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from The Future

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:20 am

one man's trash is another man's treasure definitely is true when it comes to sound design :)
I made over 10 000 presets last 7-8 years and can't remember one specific preset i made with intention to be bad :)
Some sounds are amazing just because are 'wrong' by standard definition :)
But it is possible presets to have some wrong parameter on programming level,which cause problems on output sound or user's system drivers or settings like buffer size,may be the synth have bugs you just face - if make list with all bugs i discover in many vst synths will be a novel :)
Machines do mystakes,it's expected human to do so.
It's easy to blame or to deny,always better to discuss and to find the issue for both sides :)
Cheers :)

Viktor [TUC]
KVRian
500 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:40 am

This might not be the ideal service to upload a short audio file, just not sure what else to use.
Here's an example of what I hear with that preset (SA Techno 03), but I disabled all the click layers because they're probably copyrighted samples. So this is just the sub layer isolated:

https://sndup.net/7wbp
(Click on the "Download audio!" bit)

Do you guys hear the same thing when muting the three click layers?
(I'm on Win10)

Robmobius
KVRAF
3653 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:43 am

LeVzi wrote:
Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:20 am
I bought a preset pack from Sonic Academy for Kick 2 and when I went through it, there were so many clicks n so forth, the pack was rubbish.

So I told them about it, and was pretty annoying tbh

a) they denied they could hear the issues
b) I sent audio files from rendered preset with the clicks in them and they still denied it.

I guess they simply don't believe me, because this pack is utter rubbish.

Anyone else get issues like this with packs ? First time it's happened to me tbh.
Ask for your money back.
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LeVzi
KVRAF

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4111 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK

Post Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:58 am

The unshushable Coktor wrote:
Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:40 am
This might not be the ideal service to upload a short audio file, just not sure what else to use.
Here's an example of what I hear with that preset (SA Techno 03), but I disabled all the click layers because they're probably copyrighted samples. So this is just the sub layer isolated:

https://sndup.net/7wbp
(Click on the "Download audio!" bit)

Do you guys hear the same thing when muting the three click layers?
(I'm on Win10)
That's it, exactly, there are a few that does this. It should have been checked off by the pack creator.
"T!ts McGee"

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