VCV Rack 2 is out! Free and Pro versions ($99 at launch)

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vertibration
KVRian
587 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:01 am

VCV rack is not for those who dont know how to patch modular from scratch, or those who prefer presets. VCV rack is for those who know exactly what they are doing

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KVRAF
9256 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:07 am

vertibration wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:01 am
VCV rack is not for those who dont know how to patch modular from scratch, or those who prefer presets. VCV rack is for those who know exactly what they are doing
...orthose who are willing to learn.

Omri Cohen has a ton of great VCV tutorials that can get a beginner up to speed in no time.

vertibration
KVRian
587 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:23 am

Yes, sorry.... there are those who want to learn and they should always be welcome

SLiC
KVRAF
8377 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:24 am

VCV try's to fairly acutely mirror the Eurorack experience, other 'modular' type VSTs are more user friendly (but some may argue less authentic). Ultimately it depends if you want the modular type 'sound' or the modular type user experience but with a save button!

Try something like Generate from Eventide for a great example of modern software way of looking at west coast modular
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vurt
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88513 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:37 pm

Ivan_C wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:23 am
I have a feature request: why don't we have presets in VCV Rack? Like presets for each module, presets with combinations of modules, and templates + full sessions? I think they would be awesome as ways to learn how to use all this stuff, because every single module you add in your workflow creates an infinite amount of new possibilities and complexity...
its very difficult given the number of possible patches, to know what modules people would have, to be able to build presets. and to be honest, being given a full rack patched, you are less likely to learn from imo, as it can be daunting.
whereas starting with a simple oscillator/filter/output
then adding as you start to understand the process will be much more beneficial :tu:

however, as has been mentioned above, the idea of vcv is to mirror the eurorack experience, and carries a lot of euro module clones.
there are plenty of videos of the actual modules in most cases, to help get you started.
as well as a great and helpful community who will help out where they can :)

dune_rave
KVRAF
2180 posts since 23 Jun, 2006 from Hungary

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 10:06 pm

is there a detailed comparison between the vst plugins of vcv and cherry audio voltage modular?

wasi
KVRian
837 posts since 27 Jun, 2011

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:15 pm

Do yourself a favor and get the VST host add-on too. It's a whole new level of modular to be able to tie in and CV-control your entire VST collection.

Super happy it's Linux too.

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GaryG
KVRAF
6809 posts since 13 Jan, 2003 from Darkest Kent, UK

Post Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:51 pm

vurt wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 12:37 pm
its very difficult given the number of possible patches, to know what modules people would have, to be able to build presets. and to be honest, being given a full rack patched, you are less likely to learn from imo, as it can be daunting.
whereas starting with a simple oscillator/filter/output
then adding as you start to understand the process will be much more beneficial :tu:
Personally I prefer VCVs hands-off approach, just save a patch where you want, in whatever folder structure you want. Trying to standardise it leads to (in my mind) messy convoluted systems like Reaktors ensembles, racks, snapshots etc... I'd argue more confusing for the beginner.

Maybe what VCV could benefit from is simply a folder of simple patches to use as templates that use just the default VCV modules. A dozen or so examples that are ideally self-documented and easily built upon.
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n9research
KVRist
83 posts since 3 Mar, 2009 from UK

Post Sat Dec 04, 2021 10:52 am

dune_rave wrote:
Fri Dec 03, 2021 3:47 am
Question: why is VCV good for someone, who:
- already have such great plugins like NI Reaktor, U-he Ace, U-he Bazille
- have two daws
- is not really a modular fan, but have some interest
?
Well, put it this way:

If you bought Rack Pro, and all you did was configure the default patch to send incoming audio through the Valley Plateau (reverb) module, then back out to the DAW - and then never even looked at the 1500+ other modules available - I'd consider it reasonable value for money :hihi:

Replace Plateau above with quite a few of the other modules available (e.g. Audible Instruments) and the same would pretty much apply.

vertibration
KVRian
587 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Sat Dec 04, 2021 4:09 pm

Slime Child Audio Substation is basically a Moog Subharmonicon.

I bought it, and I love it. My favorite set for VCV 2

https://slimechildaudio.com

kobal
KVRian
502 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:06 am

having lot of fun with Dbiz trosk and double filter also the nano module quart sound great.. it s the most snapy/ organic i have find for now and can sound great in audio range, the few other loopable envelop generator i have tryied crap out badly on the attack stage with no snap

kobal
KVRian
502 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:44 pm

apparently doepfer modules are coming to vcv .. nice ..lindenberg are getting ported to V2 ,alright stuff is there also..

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gentleclockdivider
KVRAF
4784 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:22 pm

kobal wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:44 pm
apparently doepfer modules are coming to vcv .. nice ..lindenberg are getting ported to V2 ,alright stuff is there also..
I am curious who will model the doepfer stuff , probably not softube :lol: (who did a great job btw)
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vertibration
KVRian
587 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:43 pm

Doepfer? Thats cool.

kobal
KVRian
502 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:57 pm

valley stuff seems lot of fun .. i like the osc and just spent like one hour the mouth open on a drone made with audible stuff and valley reverb :D

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