Discovery Pro synthesizer

VST, AU, AAX, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion
classic
KVRAF
2125 posts since 26 Jul, 2004

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:00 am

discoDSP wrote:
Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:00 am
Yeah, could be. By the way we ofer cross-grades from Discovery to Pro for a very fair price, so no pressures there.
Where can I find such an crossgrade offer?

User avatar
discoDSP
KVRAF

Topic Starter

5446 posts since 18 Jul, 2002

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:16 am

At discoDSP Members Area https://www.discodsp.com/members/
Synthesizers • Bliss sampler • Effects • Soundware
https://www.discodsp.com/

Vortifex
KVRAF
2498 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:17 am

discoDSP wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 8:11 am
Ok, please send the FL project and I'll take a deeper look. It happens with both VST2 and VST3 right?
The issue isn't project specific. The master volume just doesn't work properly in FL Studio full stop. The issue affects both VST2 and VST3. I really don't know what else to tell you.

User avatar
discoDSP
KVRAF

Topic Starter

5446 posts since 18 Jul, 2002

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:26 am

It’s a host specific issue, not much we can do about it until we update the JUCE framework.
Synthesizers • Bliss sampler • Effects • Soundware
https://www.discodsp.com/

Gadget Fiend
Banned
434 posts since 5 Feb, 2012

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:28 am

discoDSP wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:26 am
You claim to have built a Nord 1/2/2X replacement and yet none of your presets sound even remotely Nord-like. Moreover, you have to rely on layering patches in Performance mode to get an even mildly fat, robust sound (something that is not necessary on the Nord).

Your company is engaging in the worst sort of bait and switch campaign . You sucker in users by presenting a UI that looks similar to a Nord 2. But you don't deliver anything close to the Nord 2 sound.

Quite pretending you've developed a Nord replacement and at least create your own custom interface. Stop ripping off the hard work and intellectual property that Clavia engineers and designers put into the Nord 1/2.
Last edited by Gadget Fiend on Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:49 am, edited 1 time in total.
Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI

AnX
KVRAF
10382 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:38 am

Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:28 am
. Stop ripping off the hard work and intellectual property that Nord engineers and designers put into the Nord 1/2.
I'm sure Nord are big enough to sort their own problems, if they have any.

Gadget Fiend
Banned
434 posts since 5 Feb, 2012

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:46 am

AnX wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:38 am
Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:28 am
. Stop ripping off the hard work and intellectual property that Clavia engineers and designers put into the Nord 1/2.
I'm sure Clavia are big enough to sort their own problems, if they have any.
Clavia should have sued the sh!t out of DiscoDSP when they first ripped off the Nord 1.
Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI

User avatar
gentleclockdivider
KVRAF
4781 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:50 am

Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:28 am
discoDSP wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:26 am
You claim to have built a Nord 1/2/2X replacement and yet none of your presets sound even remotely Nord-like. Moreover, you have to rely on layering patches in Performance mode to get an even mildly fat, robust sound (something that is not necessary on the Nord).

Your company is engaging in the worst sort of bait and switch campaign . You sucker in users by presenting a UI that looks similar to a Nord 2. But you don't deliver anything close to the Nord 2 sound.

Quite pretending you've developed a Nord replacement and at least create your own custom interface. Stop ripping off the hard work and intellectual property that Nord engineers and designers put into the Nord 1/2.
The original coder of discovery has passed away 15+ years ago .
Disco dsp is just maintaining the code
+ improvements .
Clavia doesn't have to sue shit , the orifginal discovery was blue , thus no gui trademark and completely different code .
The only good emulation disco dsp has is the obxd , which again id not coded by disco dsp but by DATsounds( (open source )
Eyeball exchanging
Soul calibrating ..frequencies

Gadget Fiend
Banned
434 posts since 5 Feb, 2012

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:14 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:50 am
Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:28 am
discoDSP wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:26 am
You claim to have built a Nord 1/2/2X replacement and yet none of your presets sound even remotely Nord-like. Moreover, you have to rely on layering patches in Performance mode to get an even mildly fat, robust sound (something that is not necessary on the Nord).

Your company is engaging in the worst sort of bait and switch campaign . You sucker in users by presenting a UI that looks similar to a Nord 2. But you don't deliver anything close to the Nord 2 sound.

Quite pretending you've developed a Nord replacement and at least create your own custom interface. Stop ripping off the hard work and intellectual property that Nord engineers and designers put into the Nord 1/2.
The original coder of discovery has passed away 15+ years ago .
Disco dsp is just maintaining the code
+ improvements .
Clavia doesn't have to sue shit , the orifginal discovery was blue , thus no gui trademark and completely different code .
The only good emulation disco dsp has is the obxd , which again id not coded by disco dsp but by DATsounds( (open source )
Regardless of whether the original developer died 15 years ago, DiscoDSP is still perpetrating a fraud. Claivia should sue them out of existence to set a precedence that you can't just go around ripping off companies' code and intellectual property and selling an inferior product based on that intellectual property (regardless of whether you reverse engineer the code or change the color scheme of the nearly identical interface).
Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI

User avatar
fmr
KVRAF
10678 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:37 am

Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:14 am
Regardless of whether the original developer died 15 years ago, DiscoDSP is still perpetrating a fraud. Claivia should sue them out of existence to set a precedence that you can't just go around ripping off companies' code and intellectual property and selling an inferior product based on that intellectual property (regardless of whether you reverse engineer the code or change the color scheme of the nearly identical interface).
First you say they are just "pretending", then you say they are "ripping off" the work of Clavia. You have to make up your mind: Either they are just "pretending" (in which case they can't be "ripping" anything) or they are indeed closer to the real thing (in which case they are not "pretending").

In any case, which would be the legal basis for Clavia to sue them? Anyone can imitate anything. Ideas are not copyrightable. The only basis for Clavia would be if they had, somehow, disassembled the original chips and extracted the DSP code. And they would need to prove that.
Fernando (FMR)

Gadget Fiend
Banned
434 posts since 5 Feb, 2012

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:56 am

fmr wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:37 am
Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:14 am
Regardless of whether the original developer died 15 years ago, DiscoDSP is still perpetrating a fraud. Claivia should sue them out of existence to set a precedence that you can't just go around ripping off companies' code and intellectual property and selling an inferior product based on that intellectual property (regardless of whether you reverse engineer the code or change the color scheme of the nearly identical interface).
First you say they are just "pretending", then you say they are "ripping off" the work of Clavia. You have to make up your mind: Either they are just "pretending" (in which case they can't be "ripping" anything) or they are indeed closer to the real thing (in which case they are not "pretending").

In any case, which would be the legal basis for Clavia to sue them? Anyone can imitate anything. Ideas are not copyrightable. The only basis for Clavia would be if they had, somehow, disassembled the original chips and extracted the DSP code. And they w1t.ould need to prove that.
I can see you've never been in a legal fight (good for you). It isn't what you can prove to the letter of the law, but the leverage you can bring. Clavia can easily show a jury a set of DiscoveryPRO screenshots that copy the Clavia designs (which are Clavia's intellectual property). That's enough to persuade any juror that DiscoDSP is guilty of copyright infringement and fraud.

My girlfriend is an attorney. So I pick up on some of this sh!t.
Matrix-1000, MicroWave with Access programmer, MicroWave II, MKS-50 with MidiClub programmer, MKS-70, MKS-80 with Kiwi Patch Editor, Nord 2 Rack, Nord 3 Rack, Prophet REV2 module, Pulse 2, Shruthi, Virus TI

User avatar
discoDSP
KVRAF

Topic Starter

5446 posts since 18 Jul, 2002

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:05 am

Take it easy, Clavia already contacted us long time ago.
Synthesizers • Bliss sampler • Effects • Soundware
https://www.discodsp.com/

User avatar
fmr
KVRAF
10678 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:09 am

Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:56 am
Clavia can easily show a jury a set of DiscoveryPRO screenshots that copy the Clavia designs (which are Clavia's intellectual property). That's enough to persuade any juror that DiscoDSP is guilty of copyright infringement and fraud.
I have many doubts about that. A jury (and a judge) that would be persuaded with solely a bunch of screenshots would do a very lousy job. And the skin is the easiest part to be replaced.
Fernando (FMR)


AnX
KVRAF
10382 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:39 am

Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:46 am
AnX wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:38 am
Gadget Fiend wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:28 am
. Stop ripping off the hard work and intellectual property that Clavia engineers and designers put into the Nord 1/2.
I'm sure Clavia are big enough to sort their own problems, if they have any.
Clavia should have sued the sh!t out of DiscoDSP when they first ripped off the Nord 1.
But they didn't, and it's none of your concern. Move on....

Return to “Instruments”