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Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
9207 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:53 pm

Yeah, Plateau is a really nice sounding verb. Sounds wonderful and bloopy synth sequences. Good stuff!

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bmanic
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9237 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:55 pm

Personally I think it's way overrated as a reverb.. but I realize I may be a minority with this opinion.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
9207 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Post Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:01 pm

bmanic wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:55 pm
Personally I think it's way overrated as a reverb.. but I realize I may be a minority with this opinion.
It definitely doesn't always work. But whenever I've had a patch that sounded cool with Plateau, replacing it with a "better" reverb always made it worse. It's such a distinct sound that I sometimes really like, that I can't replicate it or improve upon it when it's doing something that I think works. It's distinct sounding and I appreciate that aspect of it.

Then again, you're not a big ValhallaVintageVerb fan from what I recall and I love that one too. I kinda like reverb that's thick and murky (dark, modulated), a little psychedelic and unreal, versus something clean that blends into the background. At least on synths.

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foosnark
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6024 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:22 am

Plateau lands in that place I like between delay and reverb. The modulation isn't ideal IMHO, but everything else works for me in terms of sound.

As a module I find it kind of ugly and crowded, but that matters a bit less in software than a hardware module... no problems bumping the wrong knob when tweaking it :D

I'm really liking Sckitam's Polygonal VCO along with 2DRotation and 2DAffine, and NSYTHI Etchasketchascope. It's like a free E-RM Polygogo! :hyper:

Energy is a cool VCO too, I'd happily own that in hardware if I didn't get it in VCV first. :tu:

I'm kind of curious about Slime Child Substation. It's various modules that add up to a Moog Subharmonicon, more or less.

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KVRAF
8373 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:53 am

foosnark wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 5:22 am
I'm kind of curious about Slime Child Substation. It's various modules that add up to a Moog Subharmonicon, more or less.
I just bought it - $15 well spent, lots of fun and sounds great (seem like great Dev support as well, a lot of updates) -It fun to set up in various module configurations as pre-sets, so great we can do that now and perfect for something like this.
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kobal
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453 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:10 am

bog audio walk2 is lot of fun ! if you didn t try yet, it might end up in all your patchs :D

modulating a bit of everyhting with that is just too much fun

kobal
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453 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 6:37 am

something i never tought about before and i see it available on some wavetable osc is the possibility to scan the wavetables bank like if it was a single wavetable (wihtout smoothing) .. it can be really good for sound that need very abrut transition between different tables.. have to check if there is some trickery to do that on usual wavetables synth plugins wihtout editing a wavetable but i don t think it s possible.. anyway it gave me great idea to make a wavetable out of some my favorite ones that could match well with abrut change.
it s very good to give that sort of random sh sounds lead effect but without changing the pitch.

the erika osc is very good for that with some formant and metallic fm tables, you can modulate the scan of the tables and the scan of the bank at same time with different modulators.. amazing stuff really for these sounds.. instant oldschool detroit techno type of sound with this..mechanical, industrial ..

kobal
KVRist
453 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:14 am

i gave a try to the drums it sound good imo ..i could use this or sample no one would notice a quality difference.. i have plenty of 909 sample run into many gears and i can say the vcv snare is very very good specially with a bit of dirt added, used Hetric shaper , didn t need to look for something else to have a nice driven 909 sound

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gentleclockdivider
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4769 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:39 am

I love the audible( mutable) instr macro osc 2 set to drum-snare algoritm .
Tip , regular out and aux gives 808-909 variation .
Souns really good
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kobal
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453 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:51 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:39 am
I love the audible( mutable) instr macro osc 2 set to drum-snare algoritm .
Tip , regular out and aux gives 808-909 variation .
Souns really good
thanks i will try , i have seen a kick drum also on one of their osc but i didn t try yet .

i made a recording of some of the drums but it very rought ,i m trying to figure out how to sequence drums and with what i could make different pattern and making them evolving with also some randomness ..

tempo probably too fast just having some fun but for zero processing just drived it i think the drums raw sound is quiet good, the snare can acutally be way better than in this recording, it s very close to 909 ..https://www.dropbox.com/s/x40u7nteryfor ... 1.wav?dl=0

kobal
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453 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:34 am

here a other one https://www.dropbox.com/s/4501styzqrjon5u/Tek.wav?dl=0

love that erica osc and lfo.. need to check how i could make the sound more evolving and random

i was sepctical at first and tought i would never use these but i was wrong.. these do a great job.. offocuse most people are used to processsed drums so it might sound bad for them .. but as raw source these are more than good enought to me ( well the kick i can t judge i haven t used a drum machine kick since so many years, i use more sine zap kicks).

i don t know if i m dreaming but to me it s sound almost like hardware and it s unprocessed not even mixed, it s not static at all like sample wihtout round robin but it seems the clock has a prblem maybe haha not sure the kick could be very random on each hit like one some drum machine depending the patch (was aiming for sort of mid 90 sound but not there.. )
sound like a 909 really..

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bmanic
KVRAF
9237 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:47 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Mon Dec 06, 2021 6:01 pm
Then again, you're not a big ValhallaVintageVerb fan from what I recall and I love that one too. I kinda like reverb that's thick and murky (dark, modulated), a little psychedelic and unreal, versus something clean that blends into the background. At least on synths.
That's not true any more. You must be remembering my original comments when the reverb was first released. Since then there have been a bunch of new algorithms that I really like a lot.

I do realize what you are saying though. Sometimes pristine and easy to mix reverbs aren't the answer and I totally agree with you.
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gentleclockdivider
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4769 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:28 pm

Audible instr.. Macrosynth 2 909 kick example , synthie line is Macrosynth set to fm
Pitch shift is A.I texture ( clouds )

https://app.box.com/s/96gs1g5wsqk8dilcq8t7es4zth1zix5d
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kobal
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453 posts since 5 Jul, 2004

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:32 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote:
Tue Dec 07, 2021 1:28 pm
Audible instr.. Macrosynth 2 909 kick example , synthie line is Macrosynth set to fm
Pitch shift is A.I texture ( clouds )

https://app.box.com/s/96gs1g5wsqk8dilcq8t7es4zth1zix5d
nice ,sound good man , vcv sound much better than what i first tought

was playing with alright filter... routing the filter in the vca i guess it make a feedback loop and it sounded really good on the sound i was making it seemss a good filter.
the nysthi 303 filter also is really dirty in a nice way it seems

i don t understand the erica lfo, all the output is it at different phase? anyway it s great for adding groove

edit: yes the zzzorb filter is nice.. can be organic , liquid , made some sort of jew harp modulated sound with it ..there s plenty of good filters..

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gentleclockdivider
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4769 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:10 pm

VCV itself doesn't really have a sound ,
It all comes down to the modules , There are lot's of modules that sound decent up untill a certain point , then they just fall appart.
Somtimes oversampling helps but that's not a guarantee.
Squinky labs is a good example , lot's of people love it but I think it's mediocre at best.
The frequency shifter has an unpleasant noise , bog audio filter explodes when doing FM with high res etc.
Just sticking to a few great modules is for me the best approach .
Audible , Befaco, Instruo and Vult is the top notch stuff you need .
For logic , hetrick , m lueders etc.
Instruo is amazing but not yet ported to vcv2
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