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rpacker · Post by **rpacker** » Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:03 pm

I am interested in using Grain to MIDI in Crusher-X. I understand how to activate it in the settings, but I can't figure out how and where the MIDI is output. I am using Ableton Live as my DAW. Any suggestions? Thanks!

freq · Post by **freq** » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:48 am

rpacker wrote: Mon Apr 20, 2020 8:03 pm I am interested in using Grain to MIDI in Crusher-X. I understand how to activate it in the settings, but I can't figure out how and where the MIDI is output. I am using Ableton Live as my DAW. Any suggestions? Thanks!

Actually we also didn't found a quick way to route control data from a plug-in into another MIDI-track of Ableton Live (not saying that is impossible). Pretty sure that Max for Live will make it. Probably there is a plug-in out there that could be chained after crusher-X in the track and let you route MIDI-data to a MIDI-out device? Bitwig or modular DAWs like Plogue Bidule are more flexible with MIDI-Controller routing. Under Windows you can also use the vstwrap stand-alone crusher-X player to route the plug-ins MIDI controller data output to an external MIDI device. Anyone else has an suggestion?

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stufflin · Post by **stufflin** » Tue Dec 07, 2021 10:25 pm

I dont see the notes coming out in Bitwig either actually.

cendrars · Post by **cendrars** » Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:25 pm

neither do I in Bitwig but would love to experiment with this..

freq · Post by **freq** » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:40 am

Yes, this is an issue from Bitwig and from many other DAWs (not processing MIDI output events generated by a plug-in). This is why we implemented the direct MIDI-out feature in crusher-X 9. You can e.g. use it together with a MIDI-Loopback device to route the generated MIDI data to your desired target.

Hope that helps,
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cendrars · Post by **cendrars** » Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:40 am

Just got it working with loop midi in Bitwig - fantastic thanks..

stufflin · Post by **stufflin** » Thu Dec 09, 2021 9:59 pm

cendrars wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 11:40 am Just got it working with loop midi in Bitwig - fantastic thanks..

Normally i do that with the Hardware Instrument device to Loopmidi and back in, but since there's no notes coming out the back of Crusher X??
How did you do that Cendrars?

cendrars · Post by **cendrars** » Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:32 pm

Hi, in Crusher-x settings if you set the direct midi output to loop midi then you can add an instrument track in Bitwig and set that input to receive loop midi. I'm getting some great results so far.

stufflin · Post by **stufflin** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 12:37 pm

cendrars wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:32 pm Hi, in Crusher-x settings if you set the direct midi output to loop midi then you can add an instrument track in Bitwig and set that input to receive loop midi. I'm getting some great results so far.

Maybe my version is different. I am on 8.62. See the attached screengrab
I dont see any option to set the direct midi output inside CX. I might be doing something wrong though.

cendrars · Post by **cendrars** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 10:47 pm

It is version 9 it was added.. it is a great feature to have - I was getting some fantastic results yesterday using crusher-x to trigger Bitwig samplers.

stufflin · Post by **stufflin** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:49 am

Alright. Tnx.
Arg, now i see Freq literally said V9.
I guess it confused me because theres this button "graintomidi".

stufflin · Post by **stufflin** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:12 pm

Purchased V9.

freq · Post by **freq** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:23 pm

This is how it looks like in v9:

midiv9.JPG

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