Which DAW GIANTS have folded and not recovered ?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 216 posts since 22 Nov, 2021
Which large music softwares SPECIFICALLY - DAWS On the level of Ableton, logic, cubase ,etc have folded
And disbanded completely?
You can't say cakewalk or sonar because that software Is still open and going strong
After being taken on by bandlab for example
I guess you can say Orion
Even though synapse is still open
Because they discontinued that DAW
And no other company has taken it over as yet
Just curious cheers people
And disbanded completely?
You can't say cakewalk or sonar because that software Is still open and going strong
After being taken on by bandlab for example
I guess you can say Orion
Even though synapse is still open
Because they discontinued that DAW
And no other company has taken it over as yet
Just curious cheers people
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- KVRAF
- 10255 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Well, technically, the history of the company goes something like Twelve Tone Systems > Cakewalk > Cakewalk by Roland > Cakewalk > acquired by and eventually ceased development under Gibson. So, the Cakewalk company ultimately folded, but their flagship DAW product SONAR was acquired by Bandlab and renamed Cakewalk after the founding company. So, the product lived on but the Cakewalk software company did not.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 216 posts since 22 Nov, 2021
I get what you meancryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 12:29 amWell, technically, the history of the company goes something like Twelve Tone Systems > Cakewalk > Cakewalk by Roland > Cakewalk > acquired by and eventually ceased development under Gibson. So, the Cakewalk company ultimately folded, but their flagship DAW product SONAR was acquired by Bandlab and renamed Cakewalk after the founding company. So, the product lived on but the Cakewalk software company did not.
But you know what I meant
And that wasn't it lol
Because sony acid is gone
But magix acid is still here and the original product is still there
That's what I meant
I'll reword the headline
- KVRAF
- 10255 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Not as well known as the current big DAWs, but Cakewalk’s Project5 was pretty popular before Cakewalk discontinued it back in 2009 They also had a less well known basic DAW called Kinetic that they ditched around the same time, IIRC
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 216 posts since 22 Nov, 2021
I guess then you could put Steinberg's attempt at garageband sequel in that bracket .cryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:42 am Not as well known as the current big DAWs, but Cakewalk’s Project5 was pretty popular before Cakewalk discontinued it back in 2009 They also had a less well known basic DAW called Kinetic that they ditched around the same time, IIRC
I'm just really interested in this because a lot of people see the end of the road for reason
But I think someone would grab it like they did with acid or cakewalk if that were to happen
- KVRist
- 262 posts since 16 Oct, 2016
Not exactly a 'giant' ... but Arturia Storm comes to mind. It was quirky at best. At the time, it seemed like Arturia wanted it to be a direct competitor to Reason (or maybe, Project 5). I remember trying it, but never warmed up to it at all.
On the topic of Reason, I have a feeling that if this topic is posted again in a couple of years...
On the topic of Reason, I have a feeling that if this topic is posted again in a couple of years...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 216 posts since 22 Nov, 2021
Could be but don't you think someone would take it on ?lessera wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:52 am Not exactly a 'giant' ... but Arturia Storm comes to mind. It was quirky at best. At the time, it seemed like Arturia wanted it to be a direct competitor to Reason. I remember trying it, but never warmed up to it at all.
On the topic of Reason, I have a feeling that if this topic is posted again in a couple of years...
- KVRAF
- 10255 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
Interesting thought. I can’t really imagine that Reason would completely go away. I’ve never owned it, but it certainly seems too big to fail and has a niche that no other DAW fills.
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- KVRist
- 262 posts since 16 Oct, 2016
cryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:53 am Interesting thought. I can’t really imagine that Reason would completely go away. I’ve never owned it, but it certainly seems too big to fail and has a niche that no other DAW fills.
I would like to believe this, but each year I see the DAW market move in a direction that leaves little room for such a 'niche product.'
- KVRAF
- 10255 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
What can I say, I’m an optimistlessera wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 amcryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:53 am Interesting thought. I can’t really imagine that Reason would completely go away. I’ve never owned it, but it certainly seems too big to fail and has a niche that no other DAW fills.
I would like to believe this, but each year I see the DAW market move in a direction that leaves little room for such a 'niche product.'
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- KVRist
- 262 posts since 16 Oct, 2016
I have been an enthusiastic user/supporter of Reason since (true story) version 1.0cryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:01 amWhat can I say, I’m an optimistlessera wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:58 amcryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 2:53 am Interesting thought. I can’t really imagine that Reason would completely go away. I’ve never owned it, but it certainly seems too big to fail and has a niche that no other DAW fills.
I would like to believe this, but each year I see the DAW market move in a direction that leaves little room for such a 'niche product.'
It is my belief that Reason reached a peak at version 2. But since then, the whole DAW industry has evolved in a way that leaves Reason to dwell within the realm of novelty-software. I hope the best for RS, but I am not sure they'll ever be as relevant in this market as they once were.
- KVRAF
- 2931 posts since 27 Aug, 2004
Kinetic would make a great app for tablets. It was a quick tool for making tight grooves. Probably a stretch to call it a DAW though.cryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:42 am Not as well known as the current big DAWs, but Cakewalk’s Project5 was pretty popular before Cakewalk discontinued it back in 2009 They also had a less well known basic DAW called Kinetic that they ditched around the same time, IIRC
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- KVRAF
- 10255 posts since 7 Sep, 2006 from Roseville, CA
True, as I recall it wasn’t for recording audio, but they did eventually add VST support just before CW abandoned it, right? I bought it when they offered it to Sonar owners for something ridiculous like $10 and thought it was cool for sketching out ideas, but never really ended up using it. Yeah, it would be cool to have on a tablet!mumpcake wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 3:25 amKinetic would make a great app for tablets. It was a quick tool for making tight grooves. Probably a stretch to call it a DAW though.cryophonik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 08, 2021 1:42 am Not as well known as the current big DAWs, but Cakewalk’s Project5 was pretty popular before Cakewalk discontinued it back in 2009 They also had a less well known basic DAW called Kinetic that they ditched around the same time, IIRC
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- KVRian
- 826 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
Opcode Systems and their DAW Studio Vision
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- KVRAF
- 2351 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA
Not mega-huge, but: AudioMulch was remarkably innovative and pretty influential in its time, then has all but faded away without a 64-bit version.