About CLAP
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- addled muppet weed
- 105895 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 11201 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales
Great to see Bitwig involved, Ableton are actually pretty progressive and I think they will back it....they shared LINK.
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- KVRAF
- 2402 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
As one who has embraced Bitwig, the host that is close to a “modern modular synthesizer” I can’t hardly wait!
- KVRist
- 324 posts since 12 Apr, 2020
very exciting.
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- KVRAF
- 7802 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
I'm finding the problem on calling it "CLAP" is doing internet searches for it. VST/AU/AAX comes up with immediate and relative results. CLAP comes up with far too many non-relative results. It reminds me of when we first logged on to the internet decades ago and most of us quickly learned that if you were shopping for a television, you had to spell it out completely.
Of course, the term does imply a community of applause over the "one hand clapping".
But this restores my hope for music software moving ahead.
Of course, the term does imply a community of applause over the "one hand clapping".
But this restores my hope for music software moving ahead.
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- Banned
- 1646 posts since 4 Aug, 2017
Perhaps shorten the name to CLP. That would work well as a format name because it would be similar to VST, AU, AAX, etc.BBFG# wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:46 pm I'm finding the problem on calling it "CLAP" is doing internet searches for it. VST/AU/AAX comes up with immediate and relative results. CLAP comes up with far too many non-relative results. It reminds me of when we first logged on to the internet decades ago and most of us quickly learned that if you were shopping for a television, you had to spell it out completely.
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- KVRAF
- 7802 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
My thoughts as well.tony10000 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:49 pmPerhaps shorten the name to CLP. That would work well as a format name because it would be similar to VST, AU, AAX, etc.BBFG# wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 6:46 pm I'm finding the problem on calling it "CLAP" is doing internet searches for it. VST/AU/AAX comes up with immediate and relative results. CLAP comes up with far too many non-relative results. It reminds me of when we first logged on to the internet decades ago and most of us quickly learned that if you were shopping for a television, you had to spell it out completely.
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Music Engineer Music Engineer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=15959
- KVRAF
- 4292 posts since 8 Mar, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
Great news! i surely hope, that this will work out!
- KVRAF
- 13226 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica
We will agree to disagree.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:06 pmWell, actually, it does...
And those three companies are the reasons why we need one. Just the one, mind, unencumbered by the constantly moving goalposts and corporate-self-interest that impact the ones we have now.I would be shocked if Steinberg, Logic or ProTools would ever adopt it.
Let us see how it goes five years down the road.
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- KVRAF
- 2288 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
Great idea.
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- KVRist
- 190 posts since 3 Jan, 2021
Other than polyphonic automation and host-managed multi-threading, what does CLAP offer over existing liberally licensed, cross-platform and extendible formats like LV2?
(and don't say "it doesn't use TTL", that just shows that some people never read beyond the first page)
Nice to see some other voices speaking against the VST conglomerates, though.
(and don't say "it doesn't use TTL", that just shows that some people never read beyond the first page)
Nice to see some other voices speaking against the VST conglomerates, though.
- KVRist
- 358 posts since 24 Oct, 2008
It s a great idea if the price of the plugins in this new format are lower than vst/au and if it have the support for ,at least ,reaper.i don t believe steinberg or apple will maie it possible on their daw....
time for me to leave KVR.Bye bye ! 03/2022
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- KVRian
- 1116 posts since 3 May, 2005 from Victoria, BC
Any conversation yet with the JUCE team about support? I know even though the LV2 branch was done, it never got merged into mainline. If JUCE gets support, then I'm pretty sure Tracktion will come onboard with Waveform and the plugins.
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Music Engineer Music Engineer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=15959
- KVRAF
- 4292 posts since 8 Mar, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
even more important could be to get roli on board and also oli larkin from iplug. many small to mid-sized plugin vendors use juce (me included). if supporting the new format would be as easy as checking another checkbox in the projucer, it would be a no-brainer. sadly, the juce people have already more or less rejected supporting lv2. apparently, they consider it a "yet another format to maintain", totally disregarding the important fact that it - so far - was the only available viable non-proprietary format. hopefully, this will be a different story with clap. there's a 3rd party fork that adds the lv2 capability to juce, though. ...you probably know all of this already, as i have noticed that you are a contributor to surge on github which uses this forkEvilDragon wrote: ↑Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:32 pm I think this is gonna be a pretty big thing, given a bit of time and support from host vendors. If the "CLAP consortium" gets at least Reaper, Studio One, Live (especially Live), I'd say it's gonna become pretty interesting.
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