Roland Cloud

[D-Fusion]

I have been waiting for Months on a Fix for a serious bug in the SRX Dance Trax where it doesn't save the preset properly.
When using PCM from SRX B Waves and save it as a Preset it points to SRX A Wavebank on Reload and the workaround is to Select SRX A and the SRX B to get to the correct PCM Sample in your preset.

Hope this will be fixed soon.

The cloud offerings are great if you want the Roland Sound ITB and don't want to mess with hw and and i am starting to warm up to the Zenology Pro which sounds great

[Echoii]

I wonder why Roland began to do a disservice to their legacy. If you're not gonna bother with recreating your legacy synths in a genuine form and do them justice, just leave it. These half-assed attempts do not serve anything, but a money grab.

Well, if that's the only thing Roland's concerned about, we need to vote with our money. Not paying for Zenology synths. Zenology must go and ACB needs to come back. If more people vote with their money and repeatedly request for ACB to be reinstalled as the priority, perhaps, then Roland will get a clue.

[Chrisk-K]

I've been comparing the ACB Juno-106 and the Zenology model expansion 106. For me, the expansion 106 does 80-85% of the ACB version in terms of sonic quality and authenticity. So, why should I choose the expansion 106 over the ACB 106 given that the prices are the same? Moreover, the current Play4Life deal makes Zenology model expansions obsolete.

[D-Fusion]

I've been comparing the ACB Juno-106 and the Zenology model expansion 106. For me, the expansion 106 does 80-85% of the ACB version in terms of sonic quality and authenticity. So, why should I choose the expansion 106 over the ACB 106 given that the prices are the same? Moreover, the current Play4Life deal makes Zenology model expansions obsolete.

I agree 100%
And why is only Play4Life tied to the old plugins that rarely gets updated and improved anymore and not the new stuff.
Play4Life should include everything in the Cloud since it is afterall a Cloud subscription.

[Mogular]

So they took Zenology samples and slapped ACB style GUI on top, is all they did? Lame.

Yep, pretty much. It's just a reskin.

I didn't think the Zenology version was sample based. There's a whole synthesis engine in there. Isn't it using that?

[Brian.McClelland]

What was the last word from Brian the messenger of Roland High Table? Is JX-8P / MKS-70 ACB plugin happening?

Even the JD-800 wasn't ACB anymore

Those times are gone forever, I'm afraid.

Hi, friends! Brian from Roland Cloud here. One of those synths mentioned MIGHT be happening in '22.

As for ACB/DCB, we utilize the appropriate tech per synth. The JD-800 is a digital synth, so it could not be ACB.

Also, people ask frequently if one product or another is going away (ACB/DCB), but we did release an ACB instrument (JUNO-60), a drum machine (TR-707/727), two forms of the JD-800 this year, as well as many new expansions (Model Expansions for hardware, Jam Tracks, Sample Packs, etc). Don't worry, these are all part of the flow of sound content that we plan on bringing into the future. Thanks!

[Chrisk-K]

Hi, friends! Brian from Roland Cloud here. One of those synths mentioned MIGHT be happening in '22.

The software version of the JX-10 / MKS-70 should happen in '22

[tristan-]

What was the last word from Brian the messenger of Roland High Table? Is JX-8P / MKS-70 ACB plugin happening?

Even the JD-800 wasn't ACB anymore

Those times are gone forever, I'm afraid.

Hi, friends! Brian from Roland Cloud here. One of those synths mentioned MIGHT be happening in '22.

As for ACB/DCB, we utilize the appropriate tech per synth. The JD-800 is a digital synth, so it could not be ACB.

Also, people ask frequently if one product or another is going away (ACB/DCB), but we did release an ACB instrument (JUNO-60), a drum machine (TR-707/727), two forms of the JD-800 this year, as well as many new expansions (Model Expansions for hardware, Jam Tracks, Sample Packs, etc). Don't worry, these are all part of the flow of sound content that we plan on bringing into the future. Thanks!

Thanks Brian! That sounds great. I have some questions:

What are the plan regarding sounds that use SuperNatural acoustic engine in the Integra 7? Such as guitars, horns, drums, pianos and epianos.

Same as above, but regarding the amazing layered patches introduced with the Jupiter 80?

[fmr]

What was the last word from Brian the messenger of Roland High Table? Is JX-8P / MKS-70 ACB plugin happening?

Even the JD-800 wasn't ACB anymore

Those times are gone forever, I'm afraid.

Hi, friends! Brian from Roland Cloud here. One of those synths mentioned MIGHT be happening in '22.

As for ACB/DCB, we utilize the appropriate tech per synth. The JD-800 is a digital synth, so it could not be ACB.

Oh really? So what did the D-50, JV-1080 and XV-5080 use? Reskinning something that used the Zen core technology isn't exactly what I think is "utilize the appropriate technology", more like "taking advantage of what's already done".

Come on, don't treat us like ignorants, OK? And what kind of announcement is that "MIGHT be happening". Either it will or it won't. If it will, clearly say so, if it won't don't say anything AT ALL. We are not children.

[Echoii]

Unfortunately, Brian is jiving us with the cosmik debris.

What about JD-800 filter, Brian? ACB or DCB, you didn't model it. The best digital filter Roland ever made. Why?

Because stuffing new synths with the same old Zen-core malarkey is so much more convenient, right?

I hear Billy Joel singing in the back: "...Honesty is hardly ever heard, and mostly what I need from you...". Was a good record, "52nd Street". Got Grammy when the award actually meant something.

There is one very specific (and easily observable) difference between the hw & sw JD-800 filter. This has been already debated here several times, but here goes one more time: The max cutoff and resonance peak goes to about 12 kHz in hardware, but stops at around 11 kHz in software. No matter what you do and how much you tweak it, it doesn't go past 11 kHz in the plugin (try it - I did, couldn't exceed the limit). This can't be due to any external processing or the audio passing through analog stages in hardware etc. It means that the filter is actually different between hardware and software, for whatever reason.

[Echoii]

what kind of announcement is that "MIGHT be happening"

Well, at least the messenger of Roland High Table has compromised himself by confirming JX-8P is scheduled for 2022. Brian shall expect the Adjudicator visit at any given time.

Brian, if you see this weirdo girl with a short haircut, dressed all black, remember, just run. She will interrogate you with a myriad of random questions ending with "yes?".

[fmr]

what kind of announcement is that "MIGHT be happening"

Well, at least the messenger of Roland High Table has compromised himself by confirming JX-8P is scheduled for 2022.

Most likely another reskin of a Zen core module

[Atlatnesiti]

All this negativity on this Roland Cloud forum …
As I understand, you can stop subscription at anytime, so why so much hate for service you can easily get out of?
Personally I love all software that is subscription based.
I’m subscriber to Netflix, Disney +, Apple +, YouTube and Spotty
I can’t see any difference in subscription to software Daws or any other music apps.
Btw; Same applies to Reasonstudios +
Ps; Happy subscription member of all of above

[Echoii]

Most likely another reskin of a Zen core module

"Lazy version" again? "Slowly closes his wallet"

[fmr]

All this negativity on this Roland Cloud forum …
As I understand, you can stop subscription at anytime, so why so much hate for service you can easily get out of?
Personally I love all software that is subscription based.
I’m subscriber to Netflix, Disney +, Apple +, YouTube and Spotty
I can’t see any difference in subscription to software Daws or any other music apps.
Btw; Same applies to Reasonstudios +
Ps; Happy subscription member of all of above

You're happy? Good for you. It's your opinion, and you stated it. I (and some others) have another opinion and stated it as well. Fortunately, we are free to think different and express our opinions