Yeah, Ive got the Revolution and the Drumvolution packages and the TRIAZ. I looked many times on how to extract the indivual sounds from the NI packages for using in my other sampleplayers. Providing these wavs would be a awesome.tclak wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 7:12 pmYes please! Long time WA customer here. TRIAZ is awesome btw.I'll happily give you the Drumvolution sounds as Wav files though, and you can drag these into TRIAZ using sample import![]()
Wave Alchemy Triaz [Kontakt]
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Septic Underground Septic Underground https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=544534
- KVRist
- 434 posts since 27 Dec, 2021 from Nederland
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- KVRian
- 1295 posts since 30 Oct, 2003 from Pacific NW, USA
I picked up TRIAZ today because I've been mixing, matching and layering drum sounds from several of Wave Alchemy's drum libraries since they first showed up on the scene. The average musician probably thinks it's crazy to have thousands of drum hits to choose from. And they're probably right, but I happen to love variety and their drum recordings are very high-quality with an impressive signal chain that was used to capture analog and digital sources.
TRIAZ is a MASSIVE bang for the buck since we can also use the samples separate from the instrument. Thank you for giving us the freedom to use these excellent drum hits in other plug-ins. That was a major selling point for me. This plug-in is deeper and even more capable than I first thought. The layout is easy to navigate and the sequencer allows for very quick groove programming. There's a lot to be explored here.
I've been using Sugar Bytes DrumComputer for more synthetic sounds but I like the sequencer in TRIAZ. Features such as random kit generation can be creative tools to jump-start a session. In terms of the GUI, I can understand that it's not for everyone. I do wish it could be resized since my eyes aren't what they used to be. Respectfully, I agree that the muted color scheme is a little bland, but I realize that makes it easier on the eyes and a well-designed GUI is always a welcome attribute. I look forward to spending some quality time with TRIAZ in the coming weeks.
Congrats to the Wave Alchemy team for another bangin' release!! It's a nice way to start out the new year!!
TRIAZ is a MASSIVE bang for the buck since we can also use the samples separate from the instrument. Thank you for giving us the freedom to use these excellent drum hits in other plug-ins. That was a major selling point for me. This plug-in is deeper and even more capable than I first thought. The layout is easy to navigate and the sequencer allows for very quick groove programming. There's a lot to be explored here.
I've been using Sugar Bytes DrumComputer for more synthetic sounds but I like the sequencer in TRIAZ. Features such as random kit generation can be creative tools to jump-start a session. In terms of the GUI, I can understand that it's not for everyone. I do wish it could be resized since my eyes aren't what they used to be. Respectfully, I agree that the muted color scheme is a little bland, but I realize that makes it easier on the eyes and a well-designed GUI is always a welcome attribute. I look forward to spending some quality time with TRIAZ in the coming weeks.
Congrats to the Wave Alchemy team for another bangin' release!! It's a nice way to start out the new year!!
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- KVRist
- 349 posts since 21 Jan, 2019
I bought it. I really like it. Sounds nice. Love the Sequencer. And it sounds great.
Only complained I have: It is really small. Bigger would be great. I have a hard time to catch the Pan Slider cause it is so small.
@Waves Alchemy: Do I get a 25% discount when I now want to buy BassSynth?
Only complained I have: It is really small. Bigger would be great. I have a hard time to catch the Pan Slider cause it is so small.
@Waves Alchemy: Do I get a 25% discount when I now want to buy BassSynth?
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- KVRer
- 19 posts since 11 Nov, 2006
Hi again. I exported out a midi pattern as you suggested and then tried to change a snare drum sound, but it seems impossible to do so while the sequencer is playing as Triaz constantly cycles between all the drum sounds in the pattern as they are playing in Cubase. Is there a way to stop it from doing that? I just want to be able to click on the snare and then flick through other ones to find one I like best while the pattern is playing.wave alchemy wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 4:46 pmWe'll be providing a fix for this within the next few daysrossc wrote: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:10 am
I bought it a few days ago and for the most part I like it, but I'm finding the same thing as you - if I try to change a drum sound Triaz quickly starts to lose sync with Cubase. Really hope this is something they can fix soon.![]()
In the mean time, I'd highly recommend building your pattern in TRIAZ's sequencer, and then exporting it as MIDI. This gives you much more power, and the Exported MIDI patterns gives you all the Slop, polyrhythmic and timing functions as heard when playing back from the sequencer - only now you can extend patterns more in your DAW, add fills, or whatever else. This is the way most use our instruments, including myself![]()
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- 2489 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
This person is attracted to hardware designs. Hardware designs are typically suboptimal in software - and those 3 hardware-analog-like UI's are not that good. Totally flat UIs can also be challenging to use, which is why the software design industry has shifted toward something mostly-but-not-completely flat. However, there's still sizing of things, use of color, organization, labeling, etc. that all impact usability.
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- KVRAF
- 3123 posts since 6 Dec, 2002 from Ljubljana/ Slovenia
I kinda forgot it works in Kontakt...
Kontakt is really hard to operate on a big 4k monitor. I guess there will be no resizing options until v7.
So it's a pass for me atm.
Kontakt is really hard to operate on a big 4k monitor. I guess there will be no resizing options until v7.
So it's a pass for me atm.
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- KVRist
- 124 posts since 4 Mar, 2015
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Hi again. I exported out a midi pattern as you suggested and then tried to change a snare drum sound, but it seems impossible to do so while the sequencer is playing as Triaz constantly cycles between all the drum sounds in the pattern as they are playing in Cubase. Is there a way to stop it from doing that? I just want to be able to click on the snare and then flick through other ones to find one I like best while the pattern is playing.
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Congrats Wave Alchemy on an excellent product! Samples, layering engine, and effects are absolutely top quality.
But I agree with rossc above - there doesn't seem to be any way to audition new sounds the DAW sequencer playing MIDI. Is it possible to fix this?
Hi again. I exported out a midi pattern as you suggested and then tried to change a snare drum sound, but it seems impossible to do so while the sequencer is playing as Triaz constantly cycles between all the drum sounds in the pattern as they are playing in Cubase. Is there a way to stop it from doing that? I just want to be able to click on the snare and then flick through other ones to find one I like best while the pattern is playing.
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Congrats Wave Alchemy on an excellent product! Samples, layering engine, and effects are absolutely top quality.
But I agree with rossc above - there doesn't seem to be any way to audition new sounds the DAW sequencer playing MIDI. Is it possible to fix this?
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You can in the options, deselect autoplay / autoselect, see pic attached.
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- Banned
- 252 posts since 12 Nov, 2020
"Hardware designs are typically suboptimal in software" - LOL.vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:26 pmThis person is attracted to hardware designs. Hardware designs are typically suboptimal in software - and those 3 hardware-analog-like UI's are not that good. Totally flat UIs can also be challenging to use, which is why the software design industry has shifted toward something mostly-but-not-completely flat. However, there's still sizing of things, use of color, organization, labeling, etc. that all impact usability.
So please explain why all GUIs of Windows and Mac OSes until Windows 8 (and I don't know which MacOS went 'flat', if it even did) were skeuomorphic for the first twenty years, when making them 'flat' would have been a piece of cake? Everything you say is based on belief, rather than actual use. 'Flat' design was invented by somebody because they wanted to CHANGE things that had been working perfectly well for decades, with no reason whatsoever. It was a 'solution' looking for a problem.
For example, I am using Firefox. The scrollbar on the right hand side of the window is as good as invisible. It is a grey bar on a very slightly lighter grey background. It is flat. Its ridiculous lack of contrast is all part of 'flat' design's shitty ethos - change things for change's sake. When I flick my eyes to the right, so I can see where I am on the page, and how big the page is (both of which are shown by the scrollbar), I have to scan and up and down the bloody thing in order to see where the useless scrollbar is. Hundreds of millions of people are affected by this stupidity.
You haven't given any reasons as to why skeuomorphic design is bad. NOBODY was complaining about it before 'flat' design started to be forced on us, and like a new religion, the 'believers' started to defend 'flat' design as if it was sacrosanct, without any reasoning behind it.
Just look at how dreadful Windows 10 is. We have all this computing power, 4K monitors with millions of colours, and we have flat, shitty icons, invisible 'buttons', it looks awful. Just compare it to the perfection that was Windows 7 and Aero. But we MUST change things, mustn't we. We couldn't possibly find something beautiful and easy to use forever, that wouldn't do...
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- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
sir, this is a Wendy's.
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- KVRer
- 19 posts since 11 Nov, 2006
Thanks a lot, that solves my problem.Septic Underground wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 8:21 am You can in the options, deselect autoplay / autoselect, see pic attached.
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- KVRian
- 965 posts since 18 Jul, 2021
i found it's got quite a lot of features that are small and on paper don't look like much but are very useful, so it's very quick to work with.rossc wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:02 pm Despite the few issues I've had I am enjoying Triaz. Lots of good drum sounds, nicely categorized and the interface is relatively easy to get to grips with.
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vitocorleone123 vitocorleone123 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=333504
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- 2489 posts since 30 Jun, 2014 from Pacific NW
Do your own research if you want to have knowledge and not appear ignorant. I'm not your lackey.BenfordLaw wrote: Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:56 am"Hardware designs are typically suboptimal in software" - LOL.vitocorleone123 wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:26 pmThis person is attracted to hardware designs. Hardware designs are typically suboptimal in software - and those 3 hardware-analog-like UI's are not that good. Totally flat UIs can also be challenging to use, which is why the software design industry has shifted toward something mostly-but-not-completely flat. However, there's still sizing of things, use of color, organization, labeling, etc. that all impact usability.
So please explain why all GUIs of Windows and Mac OSes until Windows 8 (and I don't know which MacOS went 'flat', if it even did) were skeuomorphic for the first twenty years, when making them 'flat' would have been a piece of cake? Everything you say is based on belief, rather than actual use. 'Flat' design was invented by somebody because they wanted to CHANGE things that had been working perfectly well for decades, with no reason whatsoever. It was a 'solution' looking for a problem.
For example, I am using Firefox. The scrollbar on the right hand side of the window is as good as invisible. It is a grey bar on a very slightly lighter grey background. It is flat. Its ridiculous lack of contrast is all part of 'flat' design's shitty ethos - change things for change's sake. When I flick my eyes to the right, so I can see where I am on the page, and how big the page is (both of which are shown by the scrollbar), I have to scan and up and down the bloody thing in order to see where the useless scrollbar is. Hundreds of millions of people are affected by this stupidity.
You haven't given any reasons as to why skeuomorphic design is bad. NOBODY was complaining about it before 'flat' design started to be forced on us, and like a new religion, the 'believers' started to defend 'flat' design as if it was sacrosanct, without any reasoning behind it.
Just look at how dreadful Windows 10 is. We have all this computing power, 4K monitors with millions of colours, and we have flat, shitty icons, invisible 'buttons', it looks awful. Just compare it to the perfection that was Windows 7 and Aero. But we MUST change things, mustn't we. We couldn't possibly find something beautiful and easy to use forever, that wouldn't do...
- KVRist
- 299 posts since 19 Jul, 2005
Just came across this today. My immediate thought was a comp to XO. So I immediately missed the sample organization and a few other features.
But Triaz delivers a few that XO missed; more instrument slots (still miffed at developers not providing 16), more patterns & layering as prime examples. And it's NKS compatible!
The developer that marries the 2 and provides 16 instrument slots will have the ultimate drum VI.
*edit: I grabbed it. Enough cool stuff not in XO. Having access to the wav files is nice!
Some cool sounds; more non-EDM than I expected.
Cool sequencer features, but need swing for individual sounds.
Same mistake XO made, can't save kits & patterns separately. Or am I missing something?
Please allow for folder scanning to add samples, similar to XO.
And random sound selection would be better if it grabbed similar sounds to what's loaded, similar to XO.
Nice though!
But Triaz delivers a few that XO missed; more instrument slots (still miffed at developers not providing 16), more patterns & layering as prime examples. And it's NKS compatible!
The developer that marries the 2 and provides 16 instrument slots will have the ultimate drum VI.
*edit: I grabbed it. Enough cool stuff not in XO. Having access to the wav files is nice!
Some cool sounds; more non-EDM than I expected.
Cool sequencer features, but need swing for individual sounds.
Same mistake XO made, can't save kits & patterns separately. Or am I missing something?
Please allow for folder scanning to add samples, similar to XO.
And random sound selection would be better if it grabbed similar sounds to what's loaded, similar to XO.
Nice though!
The groove baby, the groove...
