HoRNet Valvola - FREE 'vacuum tube amplifier' Christmas gift

[J4R1O]

Just to report that 1.0.1 is still unusable on Cubase 11 (Windows). Opening an instance completely freezes the whole DAW.

VST2 works here (Cubase Pro 11 / Windows 10), but VST3 doesn't.

[kPere]

3 full pages nearly and no mention of how it sounds, so, forgive me but can anyone who's played around with it give some preliminary impressions on how it sounds? I didn't reinstall any hornet plugins when moving cpu's b/c technincal issues and lost emails etc. but I'm a fan of hornet plugins for sure and am curious how this sounds.

I think airwindows had some triode plugin, how does this compare to that?

Much obliged!

It sounds great, not subtle at all or maybe i gainstaged it too hot. But there are a few of the types to choose from and all of them sounds really natural!

[midi_transmission]

Let me know if you have any other question!

Saverio

Hi Saverio, would love to hear why there is a 4x limitation. Why not make it possible to go higher to get the last bits of aliasing? I often have only a few tracks and I find it a pity when plugins have a hard limit. Especially for a bus I like to use the best quality possible in later mixing stages were I don't need low latency, to get around endless comparisons whether it makes a difference. I do use 8x or even 16x os with many plugins without any performance problems.

It sound really good. Wouldn't mind to pay for a version with optional very high os.

[muki]

more wishlist items (besides of output gainstage knob) (sorry can't resist):

lopass/hipass filter
mix knob

[TIMT]

more wishlist items (besides of output gainstage knob) (sorry can't resist):

lopass/hipass filter
mix knob

The circuit around the tube model seems to already equate to a pretty liberal bandpass, and it doesn't change with gain either. not sure what further lowpass/highpass filters would serve to do other than make the bandwidth even narrower. I'd prefer it was more linear to be honest, or if there was an option to choose a different circuit around the tube model that was more linear increasing the places i'd use it. At the mo, i can only see myself using this in parallel, and for sound design shit

[HoRNet]

more wishlist items (besides of output gainstage knob) (sorry can't resist):

lopass/hipass filter
mix knob

The circuit around the tube model seems to already equate to a pretty liberal bandpass, and it doesn't change with gain either. not sure what further lowpass/highpass filters would serve to do other than make the bandwidth even narrower. I'd prefer it was more linear to be honest, or if there was an option to choose a different circuit around the tube model that was more linear increasing the places i'd use it. At the mo, i can only see myself using this in parallel, and for sound design shit

This is coming by the need of January, I'll add the same tubes with different values of biasing resistors to give them more bandwidth!

Saverio

[Unaspected]

more wishlist items (besides of output gainstage knob) (sorry can't resist):

lopass/hipass filter
mix knob

The circuit around the tube model seems to already equate to a pretty liberal bandpass, and it doesn't change with gain either. not sure what further lowpass/highpass filters would serve to do other than make the bandwidth even narrower. I'd prefer it was more linear to be honest, or if there was an option to choose a different circuit around the tube model that was more linear increasing the places i'd use it. At the mo, i can only see myself using this in parallel, and for sound design shit

This is coming by the need of January, I'll add the same tubes with different values of biasing resistors to give them more bandwidth!

Saverio

Sweet! That is very generous of you.

[TIMT]

more wishlist items (besides of output gainstage knob) (sorry can't resist):

lopass/hipass filter
mix knob

The circuit around the tube model seems to already equate to a pretty liberal bandpass, and it doesn't change with gain either. not sure what further lowpass/highpass filters would serve to do other than make the bandwidth even narrower. I'd prefer it was more linear to be honest, or if there was an option to choose a different circuit around the tube model that was more linear increasing the places i'd use it. At the mo, i can only see myself using this in parallel, and for sound design shit

This is coming by the need of January, I'll add the same tubes with different values of biasing resistors to give them more bandwidth!

Saverio

Sweet Saverio. Look forward to it

[muki]

This is coming by the need of January, I'll add the same tubes with different values of biasing resistors to give them more bandwidth!

thank you!

[midi_transmission]

I had hoped for an answer, especially when it was asked if there are any questions. Still interested to get some insights why it's limited to 4x os, but I can get over it not knowing.

[HoRNet]

I had hoped for an answer, especially when it was asked if there are any questions. Still interested to get some insights why it's limited to 4x os, but I can get over it not knowing.

Sorry, there is no real limitation apart the fact that i wanted to remove as much controls as possible from the interface so I had to decide how much bandwidth was enough to keep aliasing under -70 / -80 dB when reasonably driven. I found out that 192KHz was enough so I did not went ay higher to keep the CPU load as low as possible.

If I had added the oversample amount control I could have gone up to 16x with our oversampler but i wanted a plugin that sounded good enough by itself without the need to tweak any parameter. so even if you drop it on a 44.1K session it sound good.

Saverio

[TBlake]

The HF rolloff is just too extreme. Hoping for an update that corrects this.

[midi_transmission]

I had hoped for an answer, especially when it was asked if there are any questions. Still interested to get some insights why it's limited to 4x os, but I can get over it not knowing.

Sorry, there is no real limitation apart the fact that i wanted to remove as much controls as possible from the interface so I had to decide how much bandwidth was enough to keep aliasing under -70 / -80 dB when reasonably driven. I found out that 192KHz was enough so I did not went ay higher to keep the CPU load as low as possible.

If I had added the oversample amount control I could have gone up to 16x with our oversampler but i wanted a plugin that sounded good enough by itself without the need to tweak any parameter. so even if you drop it on a 44.1K session it sound good.

Saverio

Thanks a lot Saverio!

While I don't agree with the solution, I understand you point of view. And it's certainly not a bad solution.

Last words related to the topic. I think every non-linear plugin should have manual oversampling control to balance cpu vs. quality needs, I don't see that it make the interface complicated, could be hidden for the advanced user in a context menu.

Especially with you use plugins in a chain, aliasing can add up, so it's nice to have the possibility to stay super clean. I haven't checked Valvola , but many saturators end up with around -40dbfs aliasing when pushed even with 4x OS.

Not having the option feels like the removal of the headphone jack on the ipad to me.

[MogwaiBoy]

Wonderful gift, thank you!

This desperately needs an output volume control, though. Hitting it seems to lower the volume and you have to compensate with an extra gain utility plugin. Sounds really great though

[fese]

Hmm, Version 1.0.1 is pretty much unusable for me in Cubase 11/Win/VST3. Completely kills the audio, leaving just a bit of stutter… is that a known bug?