Pashkuli: PMN (Plain Music Notation)

Chords, scales, harmony, melody, etc.
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Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:16 pm
jancivil wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:04 pm
Where are the countless users who have embraced this revolution?
Where's the otherwise impossible keyboard performance only achieved with the Pashkuli® you go on about at FB?
Chill, mate. It is WIP (work in progress). The notation has been as well as are the keyboards.
What countless users? I finished the prototypes just about end of covid-lockdown. I did not have to travel, so I had at least three hours per day more.
Fairly recently people tested them. Young people. Those above 40 said it's all useless.
I know what I am doing.
So you skipped to the bit where it looked like not having any was acceptable. Cherry-picking, quelle surprise*

Where is YOUR use of it? If it's much, much easier (we're guessing this is the idea of getting rid of so much useful information) to learn music, you'd have a significant repertoire being a real go-getter as you are, yeah? Where's the impossible except on the Pashkuli® video on Youtube?

You have no idea how chill I am, I'm just here for the jokes, rhetorical questions, remember. (*: Every answer you try reveals more of your dishonest ways. It's an interactive movie for me at this point.)

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anyway, hurry up
NOTUS GUY already has his stuff together!
In NOTUS, the number of notes to be learned is 85% less compared
are 85% FEWER, genius

the structure of Western Music (a sevenfold repetition of 7 basic tones via 7 notes) is reflected in the staff of the new NOTUS Music Notation. sounded quite like a Pashkuli at first. You've competition!

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jancivil wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:49 pm anyway, hurry up
NOTUS GUY already has his stuff together!
In NOTUS, the number of notes to be learned is 85% less compared
are 85% FEWER, genius

the structure of Western Music (a sevenfold repetition of 7 basic tones via 7 notes) is reflected in the staff of the new NOTUS Music Notation. sounded quite like a Pashkuli at first. You've competition!
Ok, here is a note from a notus. Which note is it?
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Synthack wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:29 pm So i seen the video of the keyboard and it's kind of neat. I can see sort of how it could work for doing fast chords.

I suppose someone who is a master of music theory will be able to learn this and then decide if it's really better or not though.

Does the controller do MPE and does the notation factor that in as well?
This the thread for the PMN music notation.
The thread for the keyboards is here (there are the answers):
Pashkuli Keyboards

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Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:08 pm
Synthack wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:29 pm So i seen the video of the keyboard and it's kind of neat. I can see sort of how it could work for doing fast chords.

I suppose someone who is a master of music theory will be able to learn this and then decide if it's really better or not though.

Does the controller do MPE and does the notation factor that in as well?
This the thread for the PMN music notation.
The thread for the keyboards is here (there are the answers):
Pashkuli Keyboards
You know after reading your remarks to some of the replies here i kind of lost interest.

Good luck with it.
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Synthack wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 10:11 pm You know after reading your remarks to some of the replies here i kind of lost interest.
Good luck with it.
I never loose interest in the good stuff. There are so many interesting things in life indeed.
And some of them really badly designed. Thus interesting for me.
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Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:43 pm So, what is "APL suggestion"?
Referenced some pages ago already by gaggle of hermits.
APL is a programming language which uses glyphs that don't occur in standard ASCII, you needed a special keyboard to type APL code. Sooo awkward.
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BertKoor wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:00 pm
Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 8:43 pm So, what is "APL suggestion"?
Referenced some pages ago already by ...
APL is a programming language which uses glyphs that don't occur in standard ASCII, you needed a special keyboard to type APL code. Sooo awkward.
Ah, that is more for crypto. ASCII is a limitation indeed, but back then they did not know better.
By the way most modern compilators use this concept.
For example they would make your variable either a single symbol or random comb. of two-three symbols.
Same with objects, arrays, other definitions.

It is a form of a compression and also encryption. That is nothing new though. And is absolutely unrelated to our discussion.
I know you are trying to be sarcastic. Not really that good.
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APL one of the write-only languages. I quite liked it :)

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Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:05 pm Ah, that is more for crypto.
By the way most modern compilators use this concept.
For example they would make your variable either a single symbol or random comb. of two-three symbols.
Same with objects, arrays, other definitions.

It is a form of a compression and also encryption. That is nothing new though. And is absolutely unrelated to our discussion.
No, you did not understand the most basic thing about it. If this occurs again in the future then better not "fake it until you make it".

These symbols are abstractions. Symbols are used in mathematics all the time in a similar fashion. It is nothing like crypto/abbreviation you were thinking of.
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BertKoor wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:22 pm
Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:05 pm Ah, that is more for crypto.
By the way most modern compilators use this concept.
For example they would make your variable either a single symbol or random comb. of two-three symbols.
Same with objects, arrays, other definitions.

It is a form of a compression and also encryption. That is nothing new though. And is absolutely unrelated to our discussion.
No, you did not understand the most basic thing about it. If this occurs again in the future then better not "fake it until you make it".

These symbols are abstractions. Symbols are used in mathematics all the time in a similar fashion. It is nothing like crypto/abbreviation you were thinking of.
You are completely out of context and deep in offtopic. This thread is not for you.

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Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:45 pm
BertKoor wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:22 pm
Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:05 pm Ah, that is more for crypto.
By the way most modern compilators use this concept.
For example they would make your variable either a single symbol or random comb. of two-three symbols.
Same with objects, arrays, other definitions.

It is a form of a compression and also encryption. That is nothing new though. And is absolutely unrelated to our discussion.
No, you did not understand the most basic thing about it. If this occurs again in the future then better not "fake it until you make it".

These symbols are abstractions. Symbols are used in mathematics all the time in a similar fashion. It is nothing like crypto/abbreviation you were thinking of.
You are completely out of context and deep in offtopic. This thread is not for you.
you asked what apl is. I don’t know why you’re complaining.

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Pashkuli wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 11:30 am
BertKoor wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 9:53 am You are free to write whatever you want in traditional notation.
Nah, not true. You have to write too much unnecessary stuff... by the "rules".
Constant reference to a prescribed "natural" mode as either by default or as a key signature.
It is just clumsy, bad inheritance and quite frankly... wrong!
WHAT? WTF are you talking about? Prescribed "natural" mode? What "natural" mode? Who "prescribed" it? :dog:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Please, study a little, and stop writing BS...
Fernando (FMR)

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It's been funny to have a chat here. Take care.

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whyterabbyt wrote: Sat Jan 08, 2022 6:14 pm
  • not designed by a disingenuous arsehole
So it is not about any notation. Rather personal assessment on subjective attributes. I see.
We do not discuss psychology, nor any kind of interpersonal, mutual attraction here. :uhuhuh:
This is a topic about alternative music notation.
Ive already said several times that my question was entirely about alternative notation while you ignored that and wittered on pointlessly about sound design and other such stuff you fallaciously constructed from a contextualisation I gave about the specifics of my own interest in notation.

If you were even slightly interested in alternative music notation, you'd have answered my question by now. But instead all you do is misrepresent, posture and deflect. This is clearly a vanity project without any real substance.
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