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excuse me please · Post by **excuse me please** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:07 pm

A1Triggergate is excellent and it's free.

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:04 pm

[edited upon request from ReFX]

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:10 pm

It's too bad that this synth is trapped in business. At this point just having a Vanguard 1 ported to 64-bit and wrapped in a VST3 with a 2x larger GUI would be a nice addition. It was gritty and digital which was an interesting sound.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:19 pm

I don't think I ever used Vanguard. Would another Tone2 synth be able to imitate it's sound, such as Icarus or Gladiator?

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:33 pm

Icarus is the one that comes closest

Hanz Meyzer · Post by **Hanz Meyzer** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:20 pm

Markus Krause wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:04 pm That's not true. Two years ago ReFX and myself made a contract for Vanguard2 where I get 50% from the sales for licensing the audio-engine. A few months later I received an email where they decided to pay me only 25%. I answered that I am not ok with this, since we already signed a valid contract and I never did agree with it. Since then I never heard anything from them.

Oh, sorry then, misunderstood the problem here.

MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:27 pm

Indeed sounds like reFX move.

m-ac · Post by **m-ac** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:36 pm

Markus Krause wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:04 pm
Hanz Meyzer wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:06 pm A pity you are not willing to organize a 64bit build with Refx...
That's not true. Two years ago ReFX and myself made a contract for Vanguard2 where I get 50% from the sales for licensing the audio-engine. A few months later I received an email where they decided to pay me only 25%. I answered that I am not ok with this, since we already signed a valid contract and I never did agree with it. Since then I never heard anything from them.

Refx getting greedy, no way!

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:41 pm

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syntonica · Post by **syntonica** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:10 am

Markus Krause wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:21 am On PC it should still work with a bit bridge. On the Mac this will not longer work, as(s) Apple kicked 32bit support

I've used the reFX plugs on Mac bridged. They work, but the GUIs are goofy--the patch name doesn't always update to reflect changes and the whole thing squirms in and out of its window when you move it about.

Do not recommend, which is a pity since I adore Vanguard (without the reverb), PlastiCZ and Slayer. All very easy to program and get great sounds out of. (Well, maybe not Slayer, but it's a blast to play with!)

Markus Krause · Post by **Markus Krause** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:41 am

syntonica wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 2:10 am
Markus Krause wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:21 am On PC it should still work with a bit bridge. On the Mac this will not longer work, as(s) Apple kicked 32bit support
I've used the reFX plugs on Mac bridged. They work, but the GUIs are goofy--the patch name doesn't always update to reflect changes and the whole thing squirms in and out of its window when you move it about.

Do not recommend, which is a pity since I adore Vanguard (without the reverb), PlastiCZ and Slayer. All very easy to program and get great sounds out of. (Well, maybe not Slayer, but it's a blast to play with!)

I 100% agree with the reverb of Vanguard. It's really ugly and must be replaced.

I also developed the audio-engine of Slayer and PlastiCZ. Creating PlastiCZ2 would not be difficult. It's a simple synth with only a few parameters.
You can replace PlastiCZ with Icarus2. Use the 'PD' wavetables or the 'PhaseDistort' synthesis mode.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm

this is really a bummer with Vanguard 2, i mean wtf is up? Refx seems to be clearly $$$$$$$$$.... more support for Tone2!
i love vanguard, Markus maybe if the project works to load up Vanguard presets etc. we could replace the old vanguard instances before it is too late

i would pay tone2 for a vanguard compatible vst! if refx doesnt want to are for its users/supporters then im glad to support companies which do. thats the only way to show em, with our wallett and support/not support.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:15 pm

Caine123 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm this is really a bummer with Vanguard 2, i mean wtf is up? Refx seems to be clearly $$$$$$$$$....

I would never judge before hearing both sides of the story.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:17 pm

chk071 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:15 pm
Caine123 wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm this is really a bummer with Vanguard 2, i mean wtf is up? Refx seems to be clearly $$$$$$$$$....
I would never judge before hearing both sides of the story.

thats why i wrote "seems"

but with Nexus 3 and 4, it seems so too

but you are correct!

dj.anti.matter · Post by **dj.anti.matter** » Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:35 am

Markus Krause wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:33 pm Icarus is the one that comes closest

Would it be feasible for you to create a version of Icarus which has the same engine as Vanguard that can open up old Vanguard preset files? I'd pre-order it if you did.

reFX Vanguard 2?