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machinesworking · Post by **machinesworking** » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:38 pm

Back on topic, the Live 11 beta soon to be released is what has had me come back to Live. I've been fooling around behind Ableton's back with Bitwig and while I do love it's youthful beauty and athleticism, some of the features of Live have drawn me back in.

I'm more interested in the MIDI comping in Live than Bitwig's comping as a form of composition approach. Max/MSP allows SysEx dumps into Clips for hardware instruments, plus the pre built instrument and FX library is just much larger than the Grid. Jitter is a world into it's own when used with Lives movie hosting. Live gets some key commands for MIDI piano roll full screen, after 20 years!

Anyway after years of stagnating I'm looking at Ableton getting some big things right.

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:40 am

That is interesting, hadn’t thought to check out Max’s Sysex and wider midi capabilities, presume it can send program changes too.

mcbpete · Post by **mcbpete** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:53 am

WatchTheGuitar wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:40 am That is interesting, hadn’t thought to check out Max’s Sysex and wider midi capabilities, presume it can send program changes too.

Yep, it's actually been able to do that for a few years now - I use this m4l device for such things: https://www.maxforlive.com/library/devi ... ram-change

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:03 pm

Any idea when will the 11.1 be released?

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:18 pm

Atlatnesiti wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:03 pm Any idea when will the 11.1 be released?

Probably pretty soon. The change logs for BETA releases are getting short.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:28 pm

billcarroll wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:18 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:03 pm Any idea when will the 11.1 be released?
Probably pretty soon. The change logs for BETA releases are getting short.

That's great news - looking forward to the update. Reason is still broken on my machine, so Ableton Live is my space going forward.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 pm

billcarroll wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:18 pm...the change logs for BETA releases are getting short.

The one that came out today:

https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-11-beta/

11.1b12 Release Notes
Bugfixes:
General refinements for Live on Apple Silicon machines.

That's it

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:43 pm

Don't they normally call one RC before release? Either way I am happily using the beta only so no real rush!

billcarroll · Post by **billcarroll** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:16 pm

antic604 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:33 pm
billcarroll wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:18 pm...the change logs for BETA releases are getting short.
The one that came out today:

https://www.ableton.com/en/release-notes/live-11-beta/

11.1b12 Release Notes
Bugfixes:
General refinements for Live on Apple Silicon machines.
That's it

Makes me think of the word, "Imminent"

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:24 pm

Man... 11.1 seems to be an incredible amount of bug fixes. Like a MASSIVE amount! And here I thought RS was the only one struggling with releasing a non-buggy release!

nanostream · Post by **nanostream** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:00 pm

There are still lots of M4L devices included in Suite which aren’t ported to ARM yet, so I’m doubtful a release is „imminent“.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:04 pm

ARM? Had no idea Live 11 supported ARM cpu's.

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:07 pm

EnochLight wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:04 pm ARM? Had no idea Live 11 supported ARM cpu's.

11.x was all about ARM support. The reason I bought it (to be able to test the beta). Sold it because it just is not my cup of cake.

nanostream · Post by **nanostream** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:09 pm

EnochLight wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:04 pm ARM? Had no idea Live 11 supported ARM cpu's.

I was too lazy to type out „Apple Silicon“ and too hip to use „M1“.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:14 pm

nanostream wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:09 pm
EnochLight wrote: ↑Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:04 pm ARM? Had no idea Live 11 supported ARM cpu's.
I was too lazy to type out „Apple Silicon“ and too hip to use „M1“.

Ahhh right - yeah Apple M1 support. Was going to say, if Ableton was going all in on actual ARM support, then holy hell that would change a lot of things!

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