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I'd like to chime in with a plea to change the name too. Not because of the association with an STD; I don't think that is a huge deal, nor is it my immediate association with the word "clap". That probably just says more about the people pointing it out ;) But it's going to play absolute havoc with online searches. "Clap" already means something in the context of audio, and is going to be a relatively common search term for musicians. And there are already clap plugins - they are plugins that are used to add the sound of a clap to your track. Having two different things both spelled the same within the same domain is just a hideously bad idea from the get go. It's going to make fighting Google searches even more painful when you are looking for something specific. So there's a really good practical argument against the name.

Just give it a name that isn't already a commonly used sound in music, so that it's possible to search for clap plugins etc. without a whole bunch of useless hits, and to search for information on this format and VST without getting hits for plugins that make clap sounds. There's no reason to choose something that is going to be a PITA down the line. CLP, as mentioned earlier, is already a much better suggestion. I mean, you wouldn't call it "DAW", "FX", "SYNTH", "GUITAR" or "PIANO", so why call it clap when that's a super-common search term for people looking to work on music? There really is no reason to choose a confusing and ambiguous name.

Changing the name now is no biggie, but you need to do this before the genie is out of the bottle. Won't somebody think of the users and making it easy to search?!!?!?
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Clap is also the most popular library for making command line applications with Rust: https://github.com/clap-rs/clap

Every time I try to go to either this CLAP's or that clap's GitHub page, I always end up going to the other one first.

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I've looked around but could not find the answer: what does CLAP stand for?
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DarkStar wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:19 pm I've looked around but could not find the answer: what does CLAP stand for?
I think someone said Clever Audio Plugin.

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Is it wise to have a gui-x11 GUI Extension instead of a gui-wayland extension for linux, when the future of linux is clearly Wayland? It doesn’t seem forward thinking—not everyone is going to want the x11 bloat that comes with xwayland, and many distros have already removed x11 from their default installations. More and more distros are moving over to straight wayland. In 3-4 years time, I’d be willing to bet that all the mainstream distros will use wayland by default. Developers aren’t going to want to rewrite their code once the plugin is complete. Why not start from the beginning with forward thinking compatibility and the future, than backward compatibility that is currently on the decline?
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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I suppose anyone can add their own GUI extension?

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Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:53 pmI think someone said Clever Audio Plugin.
Well, the name is anything but.

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audiojunkie wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:59 pmIn 3-4 years time
we want to make plugins with a gui before that, too..
x11 is everywhere, wayland is not..

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EvilDragon wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:25 pm https://github.com/free-audio/clap
yes, I had looked there but did not see the acronym defined (I have not looked at all the files, though).
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audiojunkie wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:59 pm Is it wise to have a gui-x11 GUI Extension instead of a gui-wayland extension for linux, when the future of linux is clearly Wayland? It doesn’t seem forward thinking—not everyone is going to want the x11 bloat that comes with xwayland, and many distros have already removed x11 from their default installations. More and more distros are moving over to straight wayland. In 3-4 years time, I’d be willing to bet that all the mainstream distros will use wayland by default. Developers aren’t going to want to rewrite their code once the plugin is complete. Why not start from the beginning with forward thinking compatibility and the future, than backward compatibility that is currently on the decline?
There is no way to do UI embedding in native Wayland at the moment. How would such an extension work?

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It’s defined in the README.md section, right under the ASCII image:

CLever Audio Plugin.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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coolblinger wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:28 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:59 pm Is it wise to have a gui-x11 GUI Extension instead of a gui-wayland extension for linux, when the future of linux is clearly Wayland? It doesn’t seem forward thinking—not everyone is going to want the x11 bloat that comes with xwayland, and many distros have already removed x11 from their default installations. More and more distros are moving over to straight wayland. In 3-4 years time, I’d be willing to bet that all the mainstream distros will use wayland by default. Developers aren’t going to want to rewrite their code once the plugin is complete. Why not start from the beginning with forward thinking compatibility and the future, than backward compatibility that is currently on the decline?
There is no way to do UI embedding in native Wayland at the moment. How would such an extension work?
Hmmm... I thought that was already possible. Oh well. Ignore me.... :oops:
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.:mad:
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
:roll:

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digitallysane wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 3:07 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:53 pmI think someone said Clever Audio Plugin.
Well, the name is anything but.
If I revealed who in my recollection of meetings put the deciding vote on the name, someone somewhere would probably faint :hihi:

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(the name is the least important thing about it atm. As long as people get upset about it rather than the interface and concept itself, I'm totally happy. I guess a nice side effect is that it keeps people occupied channeling destructive energy on unimportant things while elsewhere other people make the actual decisions, bringing things forward)

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