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mpoirier · Post by **mpoirier** » Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:27 pm

Hello!

Just installed Waveform Version 10.3.6 and I noticed many Racks are missing "T" plugins (TEqualizer, TCompressor, etc)...

Do I need to download something extra ?

Thanks !

exponent1 · Post by **exponent1** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 4:26 am

I'm not sure but these are part of the DAW essentials plugins suite maybe. Which waveform bundle did you purchase? Do you own those plugins?

harvon · Post by **harvon** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:13 pm

T10 free doesn't have these plugins and yes, one has to buy the DAW essentials collection package to get them.

It would be quite odd if they were missing in the T10 payware too, considering that they are used in the rack modules.

mpoirier · Post by **mpoirier** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 5:55 pm

I updated to W10 PRO, at least that is what it says in the "about" box. User since Tracktion 3.
I did see the T plugin names in Essential plugins. Too bad the Racks were not created with the included plugins...

Peter Widdicombe · Post by **Peter Widdicombe** » Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:53 pm

You can put anything in a rack, sort of. There aren't a limited set of pre-defined racks...

You can take any plugin you have, and it "becomes" a rack with that plugin inside it - and from there add whatever additional plugins you like as a rack assembly ?

fde101 · Post by **fde101** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:08 pm

harvon wrote: Thu Dec 26, 2019 2:13 pm It would be quite odd if they were missing in the T10 payware too, considering that they are used in the rack modules.

Not really, though it is kind of curious that they include rack presets with the DAW that require plugins which are not included... though I have seen other software which similarly includes presets which require additional purchases to make use of.

There are bundle options available when purchasing the DAW that include these plugins, but not all of the purchase options do.

mpoirier · Post by **mpoirier** » Fri Dec 27, 2019 11:32 pm

No problem. I deleted all invalid racks...

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Wed Jan 12, 2022 11:30 am

I have Waveform Pro 11.5.18 freshly installed on my system. I open the first Rack Preset (3rd Below Echo) and all of the #Txxxx plugs are missing.

Surely this is a bug? Why include presets that reference old plugins that I assume used to be included but now have been removed?

Either remove the presets too, or update the presets using the newer plugins that ARE now included in the PRO package.

This is either poor attention to detail, or very poor marketing (if they think it will cause someone to go buy an add-on).

EDIT: i know this is discussed above, but really just wanted to add my voice to those who are confused that this is still the way it is.

pough · Post by **pough** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 4:36 pm

I'm pretty sure that the DAW Essentials plugins have always been an extra, separate purchase. I firmly believe that the reason Waveform comes with a ton of presets that by default can't be used is to give all of us here ample opportunities to try to explain this to newbs over and over and over and over and over again.

Watchful · Post by **Watchful** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:18 pm

Pough is right. the T-racks are all based on owning the full version of Waveform Pro. And while I fully understand that non-Waveform uses can make good use of DAW Essentials (it's a separate software package), I think the T-racks should only be included in the DAW Essentials installer.

Or, perhaps better, they could change out the T-racks to use the effects plugins that Waveform *does* include.

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:26 pm

Watchful wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:18 pm Pough is right. the T-racks are all based on owning the full version of Waveform Pro. And while I fully understand that non-Waveform uses can make good use of DAW Essentials (it's a separate software package), I think the T-racks should only be included in the DAW Essentials installer.

Or, perhaps better, they could change out the T-racks to use the effects plugins that Waveform *does* include.

I own the full version of Waveform Pro. It does not include DAW Essentials. That is a separate purchase.

So I agree (and I stated this in my earlier post) that the T-racks should only be added to Waveform if you purchase and run the DAW Essentials installer. Otherwise, it will need to be explained over and over and over...which is not productive for anyone.

Watchful · Post by **Watchful** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:09 pm

Agreed: it seems to be far more confusing than helpful.

DAW Essentials comes with the Standard *and* Extreme versions of Waveform Pro.

mpoirier · Post by **mpoirier** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:13 pm

Watchful wrote: Mon Jan 24, 2022 8:09 pm Agreed: it seems to be far more confusing than helpful.

DAW Essentials comes with the Standard *and* Extreme versions of Waveform Pro.

Sorry but DAW Essentials did *NOT* come with Waveform Pro "Version 11.5.18 (Built: 12 July 2021)" I bought...

Peter Widdicombe · Post by **Peter Widdicombe** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:40 pm

Waveform Pro has 3 packaging models (Basic, Standard, Extreme).
Basic does NOT include BioTek and DAW Essentials.

JamminFool · Post by **JamminFool** » Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:41 pm

maybe it used to come with the full version, otherwise i can't understand why people keep repeating that it comes with "full" Waveform Pro (which I own).

but the point is that the T-racks should only get installed if you get DAW Essentials.

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