BazilleCM crashes Reaper (It's the processor not supporting SSE4.2)

[SeBaer]

Hi,
I just installed the updated BazilleCM 1.0.1 on my Computer (Win10 21H1 build 19043.1466, AMD Phenom II X4 925). It reproducibly crashes Reaper v6.46 (VST2 same as VST3, I tried both).
Steps to reproduce:
-Open Reaper with a blank project
-Insert virtual instrument on new track
-choose BazilleCM
-press key on MIDI-keyboard
-Reaper crashes

Changing patches and turning knobs don't seem to cause problems, but as soon as I press a key on my MIDI-keyboard, the mouse curser gets a spinning blue circle and Reaper closes after a second.

BazilleCM 1.0.0 works without problems. Reinstalling it over 1.0.1 reinstates it in working order.
The other updated freebies (ZebraCM, Triple Cheese, Zebralette, Podolski, Protoverb) work flawlessly on my machine, so I assume it meets the SSE4.2 criterion.

Edit: This assumption is wrong. The other freebies appearently don't rely on SSE4.2-specific instructions.

Anything else I might be doing wrong?

Cheers,
Sebastian

[tasmaniandevil]

Best to contact our support, so we can help you troubleshoot this more efficiently than in a forum.
https://u-he.com/support/#contact

[tony10000]

I tried it in Reaper/Win 6.46 and had no crashing. Windows 10 20H2 19042.1466

[SeBaer]

Bug report sent. It seems more likely to be machine-related than host-related, as it also crashes Cakewalk and LMMS on my machine.

[tony10000]

Bug report sent. It seems more likely to be machine-related than host-related, as it also crashes Cakewalk and LMMS on my machine.

Did you try uninstalling and reinstalling?

[SeBaer]

I did several times. Support said the outdated processor is to blame, and they are surprised the other updated synths work on my machine. So bad luck for me, I guess...

[DarkStar]

^^^^
Did they say why the processor was considered out of date. Is there some specific system requirement?

[tony10000]

^^^^
Did they say why the processor was considered out of date. Is there some specific system requirement?

Changes in version 1.0.1
- Native support for Apple Silicon (M1)
- Minimum SSE4.2 required in Intel/AMD based systems
- VST3 support added
- Improved preset browser
- Pitch Bend range now +/−48
- Ctrl A/B replaces fixed Breath and Expression modulation
- Improved envelope triggering from LFO
- macOS: 32bit support discontinued
- Support for Oddsound MTS-ESP
- Improved soundset installation
- Preset browser: Added ‘Bank’ smart folders
- Various minor fixes and improvements

[tony10000]

^^^^
Did they say why the processor was considered out of date. Is there some specific system requirement?

Supporting CPUs

Intel

Silvermont processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Goldmont processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Goldmont Plus processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Tremont processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported)
Penryn processors (SSE4.1 supported, except Pentium Dual-Core and Celeron)
Nehalem processors and Westmere processors (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported, except Pentium and Celeron)
Sandy Bridge processors and newer (SSE4.1, SSE4.2 and POPCNT supported, include Pentium and Celeron)
Haswell processors and newer (SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)

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I am running a 4th Gen Core i5 (Haswell) and it runs just fine.

[Super Piano Hater 64]

^^^^
Did they say why the processor was considered out of date. Is there some specific system requirement?

To elaborate a little on what tony10000 pointed out: OP has an AMD Deneb family CPU from 2009. AMD processors didn't fully support SSE4.2 until the Bulldozer family, which launched in 2011.

[tony10000]

^^^^
Did they say why the processor was considered out of date. Is there some specific system requirement?

To elaborate a little on what tony10000 pointed out: OP has an AMD Deneb family CPU from 2009. AMD processors didn't fully support SSE4.2 until the Bulldozer family, which launched in 2011.

AMD

K10-based processors (SSE4a, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
"Cat" low-power processors
Bobcat-based processors (SSE4a, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Jaguar-based processors and newer (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Puma-based processors and newer (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
"Heavy Equipment" processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Bulldozer-based processors
Piledriver-based processors [18]
Steamroller-based processors
Excavator-based processors and newer
Zen-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Zen+-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Zen2-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)
Zen3-based processors (SSE4a, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, POPCNT and LZCNT supported)

[SeBaer]

As unfortunate as it is, that I can't use the most recent BazilleCM, there's still the good news, that ZebraCM, Triple Cheese, Zebralette, Podolski and Protoverb work on older machines.
But you really have to praise the u-he support team for it's responsiveness and friendlyness, even towards 'freeloaders', who only run their freeware. I mean, it's freaking weekend!

[tony10000]

As unfortunate as it is, that I can't use the most recent BazilleCM, there's still the good news, that ZebraCM, Triple Cheese, Zebralette, Podolski and Protoverb work on older machines.
But you really have to praise the u-he support team for it's responsiveness and friendlyness, even towards 'freeloaders', who only run their freeware. I mean, it's freaking weekend!

BTW, I am using an off-lease Dell Optiplex 4th Gen i5 (Haswell). Upgraded it to 16GB RAM and a 1TB SSD. Total cost was less than $300 and it runs u-he stuff and other plugins quite well.