well nobody seems to know what cubase 12 will bring' its like the best military well kept secretsummer2000 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 27, 2022 9:24 pm For me it's Cubase 11 (soon v12). It has its flaws but the pros more than outweigh the cons. Cubase coupled with my AKAI MPC-X give me a well rounded environment to produce, mix, and master my tracks.
If I'm pleased with everything Cubase 12 has to offer when it's released I may look to sell my Bitwig, Studio One, and Reason licenses.
If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?
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- KVRer
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- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Reaper. All day.
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That would be Orion Platinum? Once my main too. Actually, I have only finished tunes in Orion and Reason despite trying a bunch of others.
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- 15959 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
If I am honest, I really don't think I would want to go back to working in Orion now. As much as I still miss Wasp, Diffuse Delay, AD-1 and a few other things, I really enjoy using Studio One and feel like it brings out the best in our music.
Whereas the same work in Studio One would only take me half a day and the result would sound betterer.
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- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
I couldn't move out of Cubase now if I wanted to. I am just too used to it, and really would not feel comfortable anywhere else.
But I used to think i'd stay stuck with FL Studio until they changed it and it didn't suit my workflow, which made me move to Cubase in the first place. So if Steiny did that, i'd move to something else. But I can't see that tbh.
But I used to think i'd stay stuck with FL Studio until they changed it and it didn't suit my workflow, which made me move to Cubase in the first place. So if Steiny did that, i'd move to something else. But I can't see that tbh.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
That's a good point. On top of Reason itself I've sunken way over EUR1k in 3rd party REs - which I love dearly - and there's no way of getting that money back
So indeed I guess it will be some DAW + Reason as a plugin.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Of course not. But it's a good and familiar way to summarise pros & cons of different DAWs. I'm not planning to write a complex formula or AI model to make that decision for me, but I like to see what I'm gaining and what I'm giving up by making a decision
You're not wrong in principleBONES wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 2:33 am
I kind of get this but, ultimately, I don't think it makes any sense. Yes, I left Bitwig because I didn't think development was likely to go in a way that would suit me but that was predicated upon the fact that Bitwig didn't suit me at the time, either. But if you are happy with something today, why would you care what it's going to be like next year or in a decade? They are mostly already very mature applications, anything new is not going to offer any radical changes in direction. Reason, for example, has taken a long, long time to get to what it is today, they aren't about to decide it was all a waste of time and go back to how it was in the beginning.
But music-making is my hobby, a way to spend my free time & money on, so inevitably I like the new & shiny, because it's exciting! So once I decide on single DAW, I know I will be getting the upgrades and I'd hate to see if all that gets added is stuff that doesn't help me or - God forbid - actively prevents me from writing music in the short time during the day (and lacking talent) that I have. I could stay with Reason, but I'm afraid they're going to kill the DAW eventually. I could stay with Bitwig, but I'm afraid they'll drift away into the quirky modular instrument territory instead, barely paying attention to the DAW. I could even stay with Studio One, but they seem to focus on non-electronic music and mix/master engineers - I don't think there was anything for me in 5.0-5.5.
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- KVRAF
- 4500 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
should take a deep breath and start to use FLS, you use MIDI almost exclusively so FLS should come naturally anyway the upcoming version will be super interesting "What we know about FL 21 so far" https://forum.image-line.com/viewtopic.php?t=245979 seems FL goes in the right direction and Bitwig able to import FLS project(to a non active tab) what can be wrong
if you forget Patcher and user Kore2 instead as container device
will be able to import layered kinds of stuff too and able to finish projects in Bitwig and done (Reason Rack can be used anywhere)
if you forget Patcher and user Kore2 instead as container device
will be able to import layered kinds of stuff too and able to finish projects in Bitwig and done (Reason Rack can be used anywhere)
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRAF
- 2415 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Well, there's no way i can get rid of FL license anyway, so I'm stuck with it
But I really doubt I'll ever warm up to it - I don't think there's a single thing I like about it (maaaaybe the fluidity of the GUI, if I'm pressed...) and majority of things it has I straight out dislike, incl. the piano roll.
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- KVRAF
- 4500 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
you will gonna love it instantly after you will be able to finish your projects with it, FLS has a much healthier balance between tweaking and composing than Bitwig has
ps. just simply create corresponding channel rack, picker, playlist and patterns groups(group names/icons/colors come from editable files so they can be tweaked have to be done only once) then clicking on a playlist element will gonna select the given group
also worth creating direct connections (using the workflow v2) between channel rack/mixer/and playlist tracks... and done after it FLS will able to autoorganize itself
ps. just simply create corresponding channel rack, picker, playlist and patterns groups(group names/icons/colors come from editable files so they can be tweaked have to be done only once) then clicking on a playlist element will gonna select the given group
also worth creating direct connections (using the workflow v2) between channel rack/mixer/and playlist tracks... and done after it FLS will able to autoorganize itself
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
you should get some sleep ocassionally.
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- KVRist
- 185 posts since 29 May, 2013 from Durham
Ableton - I have used studios one for 2 years and fruity loops (back in the day) for about a year - but most of my 20 years making computer music has been in Ableton .
Their FX, sampler, collision and operator are value for money.
There are things that would improve it, but I cannot imagine switching now because all that knowledge I have would take years to redevelop on another DAW
Their FX, sampler, collision and operator are value for money.
There are things that would improve it, but I cannot imagine switching now because all that knowledge I have would take years to redevelop on another DAW
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