If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?

[pdxindy]

Kenny Gioia

I wish I used Reaper just so his videos were relevant to me.

[antic604]

We need a Youtube DAW Guru poll.

Kenny Gioia, no one comes close, and Reaper isn't even in my top three favorite DAWs, Kenny is that good. Hundreds of short videos all solving a problem clearly explained in the topic title, diction etc.

Well, actually Bitwig's Dave Linnenbank is pretty damn close:

https://www.bitwig.com/learnings/modula ... ything-42/

[antic604]

Kenny Gioia

I wish I used Reaper just so his videos were relevant to me.

Yup. I'm subscribing to his channel even though I pretty much hate Reaper. He's awesome

[BONES]

Do you ever actually make any music, or just watch videos about how to make it? All I see on your Soundcloud page for the last 20 years are a couple of finished tracks and three works in progress. I've done more than that this year alone (and the year is only 5 weeks old).

I like him as a person, but I think Gregor is a much better educator and "youtuber". Joe can spend whole 10-15 minute episode on some feature that can be explained in 60s, he treats their audience like kids and I get this feeling he doesn't really understand a lot of what he's doing - he just knows how to do it.

I think we must be talking about a different Joe Gilder because the guy I've seen is the opposite of what you describe, in every way. The Joe Gilder I watch uses real world examples in his videos to show you how things work, not just contrived demo pieces to make it look a lot better than it is. Joe doesn't show show you how to do something, he explains why you should do it that way, which is treating people like grown-ups. OTOH, Gregor just shows you how to do it, which is how you train monkeys.

[Spencer Maddox]

what I'm about to point you towards will illuminate to you the reasons Cubase is actually undeniably and logically the best DAW

Actually, I agree. Cubase is the overall most complete DAW.

It is still not my DAW of choice. I don't need most of it's capability and I am happy with a simpler DAW... Bitwig.

THIS
The Best Daw isin't always the one that wins on a spreadsheet, but the one that allows you to make your best, most creative results, fast.

[antic604]

Do you ever actually make any music, or just watch videos about how to make it? All I see on your Soundcloud page for the last 20 years are a couple of finished tracks and three works in progress. I've done more than that this year alone (and the year is only 5 weeks old).

Well, then please stop interacting with me if your only measure of credibility is how much finished music one has on SC. That's pretty low

I work in a DAW pretty much every day - sometimes just few minutes, often 1-2h but I usually don't save anything. I also spend time in/around DAW making gifs, screnshots, looking up for links to post when I'm trying to help someone. And indeed I watch YT a lot, even for DAWs I don't active use. I'd like to believe I'm pretty well versed in DAWs, even though I don't push out so much music as you do. And I'm aware my music sucks, that's why I never talk as much about it either.

We could probably start measuring our societal worth on other planes, but I won't lower down to that level

[xbitz]

what I'm about to point you towards will illuminate to you the reasons Cubase is actually undeniably and logically the best DAW

Actually, I agree. Cubase is the overall most complete DAW.

It is still not my DAW of choice. I don't need most of it's capability and I am happy with a simpler DAW... Bitwig.

THIS
The Best Daw isin't always the one that wins on a spreadsheet, but the one that allows you to make your best, most creative results, fast.

this is why the clip-based relative automation was a great invention in Bitwig

don't have to draw automation curves on the tracks and still can play all the controls of the plugins

ps. yes I know this

just AFAIK the clip-based modulation curves aren't visible in the arranger(no visual feedback just in clip view) view as in BWS,

[dellboy]

We need a Youtube DAW Guru poll.

Kenny Gioia, no one comes close, and Reaper isn't even in my top three favorite DAWs, Kenny is that good. Hundreds of short videos all solving a problem clearly explained in the topic title, diction etc.

Agreed about Kenny, he is very good. Many youtube videos are very amateurish and rambling, not Kenny's. I would guess he spends a lot of time working everything out before he turns on the camera.

[skijumptoes]

Joe can spend whole 10-15 minute episode on some feature that can be explained in 60s, he treats their audience like kids and I get this feeling he doesn't really understand a lot of what he's doing - he just knows how to do it.

I get that he can sound patronising, and he's admitted to having a little bit of an ego in past videos, so does overcook some videos.

But the guy has been doing this for well over a decade and engaging with users of all levels, I think over that time and the feedback he's received he deliberately keeps his videos at a slower pace and tries to equate what you're doing to an every day activity and connect on a human level. People appreciate that.

Also doing it for all these years you can see how he tries to refresh his presentation by bringing in drawing apps, and sticky notes etc. And he always keeps a focus on keeping it right at source and concentrates on the creative aspect of music, rather than JUST the technique being demonstrated.

He's not an in depth MIDI/Synth guy, so the dynamic between himself and Gregor works really well. But yes, it's clear when he's pushing features that you know he's not so familiar with.

[Jolaff]

Kenny Gioia

I wish I used Reaper just so his videos were relevant to me.

Yup. I'm subscribing to his channel even though I pretty much hate Reaper. He's awesome

What's the song in the background ? It tells me something....

[BONES]

I tell you who I can't stand at all, even a little bit, is that Dom guy who makes videos for Steinberg. He annoys the bejeesus out of me, I usually only last about a minute before I have to turn him off.

Well, then please stop interacting with me if your only measure of credibility is how much finished music one has on SC. That's pretty low

Surely that's what it is all for? Otherwise, why bother? The purpose of a DAW is to produce music and I was just wondering how, if you spend all your time watching videos for a DAW you don't even seem to use, how much time that leaves you to use the DAW for the purpose for which it is designed.

I'd like to believe I'm pretty well versed in DAWs, even though I don't push out so much music as you do.

So why not put that knowledge to work and make some music? IS that what your thread about choosing a single DAW is ultimately about? If so, that's a really good thing, I think.

And I'm aware my music sucks, that's why I never talk as much about it either.

Does it? The tracks I listened to yesterday sounded OK to me. Not my cup of tea but nicely produced.

We could probably start measuring our societal worth on other planes, but I won't lower down to that level

I wasn't having a go at you, simply wanting to point out that knowing every feature and function of your host application isn't necessary, that you just need enough knowledge to do what it is made for. I'm sure you know S1 much more comprehensively than I do but if that doesn't allow you to make any music, what's the point of all that knowledge? It's a choice we all have to make - do I spend my time learning more about my host or do I spend it making more music? For me, it's all about making music so I learn enough to get that job done and that's all I need. Doing any more becomes a waste of time I could use to do other things.

[bbreakz]

The Best Daw isin't always the one that wins on a spreadsheet, but the one that allows you to make your best, most creative results, fast.

Need to staple this to my forehead

[machinesworking]

I wasn't having a go at you, simply wanting to point out that knowing every feature and function of your host application isn't necessary, that you just need enough knowledge to do what it is made for. I'm sure you know S1 much more comprehensively than I do but if that doesn't allow you to make any music, what's the point of all that knowledge? It's a choice we all have to make - do I spend my time learning more about my host or do I spend it making more music? For me, it's all about making music so I learn enough to get that job done and that's all I need. Doing any more becomes a waste of time I could use to do other things.

This is a good point, there's room for logical counterpoints though. I'm mostly very productive, but I do have periods where I'm not that creative, it's rare but in that time I find it's much much better to just go into learning mode. Plus one of the main arguments you can make that's convincing to me to work in only one DAW is to know it completely, thereby when you do want to use some obscure feature you're not diving into PDFs and youtube etc. you're just applying that feature.

Obviously if you're not into score editing, or film scoring, those sections of the DAW don't need to be explored, but knowing all the features of the areas of the DAW you use IMO is just going to save time and mental energy when something comes up that knowing that feature would be advantageous.

I think you're right when it comes to antic, and that's one good reason he's attempting to filter down to one DAW. It's easy to get lost in the weeds if you experience some writers block, but at least for me if I get writers block or just don't feel like writing, I will learn new things. It's actually advice I've given people over the years when they complain about writers block and not being able to finish songs, educate yourself on the DAW you work with, explore theory, practice your instrument. It works for me.

[Biscotto]

Antic, you have created this Poll to help you make a final (?) decision (unless just to “confirm” the DAW you’ve already chosen in you mind) you should pick Cubase or Ableton.
Any other choice would defying the logic of making this Poll.

It’s either the Poll or the comments about these DAW, which you already seems to have a good amount of knowledge about them.

Try this, I do this quite often:
In choosing your tools, what is the major aspect that it would NEVER work for you, that it’s not your natural workflow.
And then remove that choice from your list of contenders.

If you focus more at the “great feature”, they are, more or less, all very tempting. What really hits you eventually are those little, or big, pebbles in your “looking great” shoe that will inevitably torture you on a daily basis.

[xbitz]

I wouldn't choose Cubase alone but with VCVHost

that's a different story https://vcvrack.com/Host so there are options