MDrummer Mixer.....Is It All We Need?

[edkilp]

Hi everyone. I was searching the innerwebs but came up short on this question. If you're an MDrummer user, do you still find it necessary to have all your individual drums on separate tracks in your DAW, or do you have enough control from within the MDrummer mixer to mix the drums there, and just send out a stereo drum mix?
I have been staying in the mixer for the most part, and I think the drums sound fantastic in my mixes. Not that I'm doing anything spectacular. So that's what I'm curious about. Do you mix drums in the plugin or send them all to individual tracks? Thanks!

[steve2KVR]

...mmmm...tough question here...since I use the entire Melda stack, everything I would use/need is already built in, and so I don't use the multi out much any more. I have whole genera kits setup and saved which is a real workflow enhancer, especially across different DAWs...don't know if that really helps with anything in your situation.../s~

[edkilp]

I'm not really looking for help. I was just curious about other people's approach. A few years back, EZ Drummer was the big rage, and the first thing any tutorial showed was how to break them out into individual tracks. MDrummer's mixer is so advanced and thorough, I'm just wondering if some folks just continue to mix the drums to individual tracks because that's the way they've always done it. In my opinion, it's no longer necessary with MDrummer. There is the same, if not more control over each drum kit piece right from the mixer. I think maybe even more, because you have access to all the Melda plugins within MDrummer.

[mibby]

If you ever want other people to mix your stuff, they will want separate drums, at least I would. It gives more options while mixing like triggering samples and such.

[Tyrs]

Do you mix drums in the plugin or send them all to individual tracks?

I normally send them to individual tracks. This is because I did get used to it already before I did start using MD. And there are use cases, where it's still required, even if the build in mixer with all the plugins would do the job entirely. E.g when you would like to mix only parts of the drums in a group with other instruments. Aslo I am not sure if and how good side-chain compression with bassdrum and bass would work without having bassdrum on a separate track. Do you have experience with it?

[edkilp]

Nope, I don't really have a need for side-chaining. I'm mostly recording basic guitar-bass-drums-vocal stuff. Very bare-boned.

[Tyrs]

Then I think you have everything you need in there for creating, composing, producing, mixing and mastering your drums with no need to send to separate tracks

[Chandlerhimself]

Before I was using seperate tracks, but for the last year or 2 I've been doing everything inside MDrummer. Its less messy in the DAW and 95% of the time I don't need to split the drums up. The only thing that can sometimes be a problem is ducking bass with the kick drum, but even that can be solved with a low pass filter on the sidechain. I'm sure there are other cases, but I've found I don't need it in most cases.

[edkilp]

Thanks, guys. I felt the mixer was full-featured enough to handle everything I'll ever throw at it.

[Tyrs]

The only thing that can sometimes be a problem is ducking bass with the kick drum, but even that can be solved with a low pass filter on the sidechain.

Please show us

[Chandlerhimself]

The only thing that can sometimes be a problem is ducking bass with the kick drum, but even that can be solved with a low pass filter on the sidechain.

Please show us

OK, I will try to do a short video about it in the future.

[magmagwa]

Features from the DAW: side chain, 3rd party plugins, DAW based audio/midi routing, doubling tracks with 3rd party VSTs, mix visibility, etc. I ended up putting it all into the DAW. I do that with all my multiout VSTs.