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W23 · Post by **W23** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:53 pm

Ableton Live for me. It’s the devil I know.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:00 pm

Serhii Kot wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 4:05 pm It is Logic of course. Good allrounder. Plenty of instruments with decent sound quality, plenty of synths, and good collection of FXs. No brainer really.

Yeah... Logic is exceptional as a complete package with nothing else available.

Logic has Alchemy. It's an incredible synth. Nothing like it in most DAW's. It has spectral and additive resynthesis (and with high quality which sounds great), granular, multi-samples, morphing, etc. etc. Sculpture is still one the best physical modeling synths available today.

Logic also has Auto-Sampler. Drum Machine Designer, the new Sampler and a bunch of high quality FX. The new Step Sequencer in Logic is my favorite available today. Then there is the Logic Drummer.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:45 pm

BBFG# wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:12 pmI think it depends on what is considered "Native"?

As I said - by this I mean you can only use the stuff that comes with the top version of the DAW (obviously you're free to use a lesser version like Live Standard, Bitwig 16-Track or Cubase Elements if that's enough for you)

TribeOfHǫfuð · Post by **TribeOfHǫfuð** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:17 pm

No matter how clever these One daw threads are varied, the answer is Reason 11 Suite. Period.

stevewlb · Post by **stevewlb** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:27 pm

Started out with Ableton, but the shift to Logic was such a step up for me

Yorrrrrr · Post by **Yorrrrrr** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:27 pm

Live (assuming it's Suite version). Logic is awesome too (if on a Mac) and it's the champion of value per money spent. But overall I choose Live.

EnGee · Post by **EnGee** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:28 pm

I'm on Windows now, otherwise Logic would be the obvious choice.

Now, this poll doesn't say if we can use hardware or just the DAW 100%.

Anyway, for me I would use my DM12 and MODX with any DAW (realistically), so it would be between Cubase and Live (Bitwig comes third, then S1).

However, if I want to concentrate only on my two hardware synths/instruments, but using the DAW effects and mixing tools, then S1 would be my choice because of the easier workflow (compared to Cubase).

If 100% DAW, then it would be Live or Bitwig.
But my vote goes to Cubase as the best overall among these 4 that I have. It has the best balance between creativity and final production including great synths (like Retrologue and Padshop) and excellent beats/acoustic drums (GA SE).

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:30 pm

None.

Serhii Kot · Post by **Serhii Kot** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:58 pm

xbitz wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 5:41 pm
do you like the current look of it,

I like the new look, the old one was ok also. But anyway logic is not my main daw. Was in the past, 8 years or so only logic. Then I was spoiled by Studio One, and then Bitwig, and then multiple DAW's slippery slopes.

TheFrozenSea · Post by **TheFrozenSea** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:16 pm

I've only used Cubase and Reaper enough to know them. Voted Cubase but I only use Reaper nowadays. The Reaper stock instrument plugins I've tried are very basic. Doesn't really matter though, free stuff like Vital, Pendulate and Zebralette are more my thing than stock vsti:s anyway

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:18 pm

Definitely Logic for me, although Live is a very good all-in-one product, too.

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 9:47 pm

stevewlb wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 8:27 pm Started out with Ableton, but the shift to Logic was such a step up for me

Yeah, there is a lot that Logic does that Live doesn't.

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Mon Feb 07, 2022 10:09 pm

antic604 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 7:45 pm
BBFG# wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 6:12 pmI think it depends on what is considered "Native"?
As I said - by this I mean you can only use the stuff that comes with the top version of the DAW (obviously you're free to use a lesser version like Live Standard, Bitwig 16-Track or Cubase Elements if that's enough for you)

Cubase Pro doesn't include the full HALion/Groove Agent,
And none of the ones I mentioned have anything included (Basic or Pro) that I wouldn't find too limited and uninspiring.
So then, I wouldn't consider any DAW on your list to be able to fit the bill.

SamDi · Post by **SamDi** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 7:14 am

antic604 wrote: Mon Feb 07, 2022 1:32 pm This is a follow up to previous poll, but this time the additional constraint is you can't use 3rd party VSTs / AUs / AAXs / M4Ls / REs but only the 1st party native stuff that comes with top version of the DAW.

Let's see how the results will differ

EDIT: I voted Ableton Live here & Bitwig in previous one.

Yeah Bitwig‘s Synths and VST can by far not compete with Ableton.

Not shure what to answer:
GoTo-DAW is Ableton. And it has the nicest and most streamlined workflow, supports Push and APC (which I have) and is pretty complete from sculping ideas, over arrainging the song, till mix and master it (from terms if Fx quality).

But I think FL Studio is even more capable, Fx are on par with Ableton and synths are even better (Syrus, Harmor). But I had to learn it more deeply and it‘s a PITA for me, because it‘s so inconsistent and aside
every GUI standard. When I start a song in FL Studio it has just THIS base sound. Beats are exploding, while Ableton is flat. Synth presets are full and ready to use, while Ableton’s sound like electronic and modular experiments without any power and mightyness.

At the end, because I think I can use it more as a tool, and workflow is kind if genious, I think I would go with Ableton.

spliffy_mcweed · Post by **spliffy_mcweed** » Tue Feb 08, 2022 8:29 am

Standalone Serum and a QWERTY keyboard

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If you had to stick to one DAW - and ONLY its native 1st party devices + sounds - which one would it be?

If you had to stick to one DAW and only its native devices + sounds, which one would it be?