When recording midi, many notes aren't registered

[samox17]

I'm currently using waveform 11 free and I'm using the soft piano plugin from spitfire. I use a midi lead into my laptop from my yamaha p-45. The midi connection is fine when i'm playing without recording but when i try to record, often notes that i'm playing aren't being registered and they don't come up in the recording.

I have the same problem when I try to play on a second track (while not recording) while a different track's recording is playing.

I have seen some suggestions that my lead needs to be better quality but surely this is a software issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[Peter Widdicombe]

Kind of open-ended here. Some questions...

1. Computer - Windows or Mac?
2. How much memory? What is the memory (and disk/CPU) utilization like while playing?
3. If windows, is there a disk scan, anti-virus scan, update going on at the same time?
4. When you select the second track to record with, are you setting it's input to the Yamaha interface? The first track should "lose" it's input selection at that time.
5. You DO have a .VST loaded on track , and no solo/muting going on?
6. The track 2 input level indicators bounce when you play keys? Do the output meters also bounce for that track as well as the original while playing?

[samox17]

Hi peter, thanks so much for taking the time to read and reply.

I'm on a HP with 8GB RAM (5.92 Usable)

When testing with and without the recording playing. My disk ultilisation is at about 1% regardless and has a spike of about 30% ever minute or so. Mu cpu rests at 11% and rises to about 17% when the track is playing and has a spike of about 40% every minute or so. If i leave the track playing i can get 6 40% spikes in a minute.

I cant see any virus scans going on when i look in windows security although i'm not sure if this is a comprehensive check.

The first track loses the input selection when the second track is selected.

I have a vst loaded on to the track and no mute/soloing is happening.

When i press a note and it doesn't play, it does bounce the input indicator and the output meter bounces for both tracks when playing.

Please let me know what needs clearing up as I'm not too clued up on the jargon and thanks again for responding.

[Peter Widdicombe]

Extreme right on each track, do you have a little icon of a speaker? Click on that to see what the track destination is (for both the track 1 that works and the track 2 you're having issues with. NORMALLY default is "default audio output" which will send all output (audio) to the master output bus.

You DO have a "normal" vst on the track, and nothing after the output level control/meter other than the Mute/Solo button and output device selector? the fact you see levels bouncing would indicate audio is being generated, although it IS odd that pressing the MIDI keyboard keys would activate track 1 AND 2 at the same time.

No MUTE or SOLO on any of the tracks?

[samox17]

Everything you mentioned is as it should be however i was unclear in my earlier message as what i mean was that when track 1's recording is playing and i am playing over it on track 2, the output indicator bounces for both tracks inputs.
Also recording is bad for all tracks, i have just managed to get a recording by using the 'clip previously captured audio' function.

[samox17]

Also mute and solo are not selected on any of the tracks

[Watchful]

The last time something like this was happening, I recall it turned out the individual was putting the VST on the master bus, down at the bottom, and not in the right of the track itself.

A screen shot might be helpful.

[Dark Lane]

Are you monitoring the output from Waveform through a separate audio interface and speakers or are you playing back via the Yamaha electric piano? I may barking up the wrong tree, as I use a MIDI controller rather than an electric piano, but it struck me maybe that was a potential cause of the problem. I'm sure someone with experience of your keyboard might shed light on if this is an issue

[samox17]

Thanks so much for your replies

Hopefully that link works.

And I'm not completely sure what you mean dark lane but I'm outputting the sound through my laptop speakers if that's what you were referring to.

[samox17]

Sorry you'll have to zoom to see that image

[TWfriend]

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Here's a screenshot of my edit. On the top left does your keyboard show up mine in the Yamaha p-255. I have it directly connected to my imac. If you could also show us a screenshot of your 'Settings', like what I have attached, just to make sure all things check out setup-wise.

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[samox17]

Are these ok?

[Watchful]

These are helpful.

Your track looks fine--input goes to output, nothing muted and nothing soloed. I'm presuming you're arming the MIDI track when recording notes, otherwise you'd get nothing at all.

Your input called "Digital Piano 1" is interesting. Did you select that name, or did your Yamaha select it? I would presume if the latter the input would name itself "YAMAHA P-45" or "P-45." If it shows up as "Digital Piano 1," that's fine--but I recommend always letting the hardware pick its own name and conventions for compatibility.

Re-reading your first post, how exactly are you connecting the P-45? A quick look at the specs shows the P-45 doesn't have MIDI outs, but does have a USB.

Are you connecting the USB on the P-45 to a hub, and then the hub to a computer? Or from the P-45 directly into the computer?

If the latter, It's very possible you need a better-quality USB cable. Sounds like not everything is getting through.

If the former, your hub might not be able to handle all the traffic, especially if it's very low-cost.

The screenshots were extremely helpful--I'm suspecting it's the physical connection between computer and piano. I throw a ton at Waveform, and it's never failed to record every note...sometimes annoyingly so, as it captures every error, too!

It might be an interesting test to throw a lot of rapid-fire notes out to your P-45 and see if it catches all of them. If you have problems going one way, you might see problems going the other.

[samox17]

Thanks watchful,

Yes the track is armed and i did not change the name of the keyboard in the midi settings.
I am also connecting through USB.

The missing notes occur when i try to record or play while a track is running, i get every note through while nothing is playing or running so should this not mean the cable is ok.

Also i'm not to sure what you mean in your last note.

[samox17]

After some playing around i've realised i only have this problem on the spitfire vst's and not the built in 4OSC ones. I think ill have to find some more plugins then, where's best?