Which is your fav plate reverb in 2023?
- Banned
- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
I've always, and probably always will use Poor Plate
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/poor_p ... acuumsound
Just is a really nice sounding verb
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/poor_p ... acuumsound
Just is a really nice sounding verb
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
This thread is totally and arbitrarily mixing up physical plate emulations and digital "plates" - both are completely different things, so the whole thread is rendered basicallly meaningless. 
- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
I would argue that "emulation" is always about "how precise it is". Well, it would be extremely helpful and interesting if someone did a double blind-test between "physical" and "digital" plate emulations, to tell if there's true perceptible difference exist or not. I may be deeply mistaken, but I do not hear much difference beside some plugins having a "bleep" sound to it, like what you hear when playing back bass-heavy music on iPhone built-in speakers.jens wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:16 am This thread is totally and arbitrarily mixing up physical plate emulations and digital "plates" - both are completely different things, so the whole thread is rendered basicallly meaningless.![]()
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- KVRAF
- 1655 posts since 3 Mar, 2009 from Colorado Springs
I can't wait til I am famous to do it, Deft Compressor is awesome too, try it pals
- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
I select featured artists in not "credits-based way", it's based on many factors and feelings about various things. Unfortunately, AFAIR I've said "sorry" to 2/3 of applications. Anyone can try, but "Voxengo customer" status is important as I can't readily see who's fake and who's not.Ploki wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:54 pm I mean i have voxengo premium sub and absolutely adore it, but nobody listens to me so i cant promote it.
Btw alexey kudos on the OVC GUI refresh, it looks nice.
Thanks for the feedback on OVC update, I plan to update other plugins with a similar visual style. Feedback was mostly positive, and that's good.
- KVRAF
- 25012 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Yeah, I guess Sean Costello just wasted his time when developing Valhalla Plate, since there was already a "plate" algorithm in VVV... someone should tell him.Aleksey Vaneev wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:12 pmI would argue that "emulation" is always about "how precise it is". Well, it would be extremely helpful and interesting if someone did a double blind-test between "physical" and "digital" plate emulations, to tell if there's true perceptible difference exist or not. I may be deeply mistaken, but I do not hear much difference beside some plugins having a "bleep" sound to it, like what you hear when playing back bass-heavy music on iPhone built-in speakers.jens wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:16 am This thread is totally and arbitrarily mixing up physical plate emulations and digital "plates" - both are completely different things, so the whole thread is rendered basicallly meaningless.![]()
- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
Valhalla developers do their business, obviously. I may have my standards which tell me one reverb is better than the other, I may even express some opinions on my personal blog, but arguing this on a wide-audience public forum, or running an advertisement campaign "my reverb is better than reverb 2,3,4" it's just meh.jens wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:04 pm Yeah, I guess Sean Costello just wasted his time when developing Valhalla Plate, since there was already a "plate" algorithm in VVV... someone should tell him.
- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
I'll just tell a detail on how I work. For example, I can hear a recorded impulse response, or a set of alike responses, and then after some time I can come up with a DSP topology which mimicks the impulse response, how I perceive it. Of course, I can't tell it's a "scientifically-approved emulation of a real thing" (that goes down to third derivative of all detected physical processes happening in a plate reverb).
- KVRAF
- 2192 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
Can you really tell "in the mix"? People tend to over analyze where over analyzation isn't quite required. Whatever sounds right and such....Aleksey Vaneev wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:14 am I'll just tell a detail on how I work. For example, I can hear a recorded impulse response, or a set of alike responses, and then after some time I can come up with a DSP topology which mimicks the impulse response, how I perceive it. Of course, I can't tell it's a "scientifically-approved emulation of a real thing" (that goes down to third derivative of all detected physical processes happening in a plate reverb).
MacMini M2 Pro …… MacOS Tahoe ……… Reason 14
- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
I would say, you can tell "in the mix". Probably not guess which brand reverb it is, but there's difference, of course, depends on your experience. However, limiting yourself to a couple of best-sellers is just lazy, and in a long run I think uncompetitive.sQeetz wrote: Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:34 am Can you really tell "in the mix"? People tend to over analyze where over analyzation isn't quite required. Whatever sounds right and such....
- KVRAF
- 4030 posts since 7 Sep, 2002
Losing sales in software is a dead-end usually, so of course everyone wants to have perpetual best-sellers. But this makes developers lazy in turn. I was not smarter than an average 22 y.o. guy when I started, but this shit world of competition, and barely noticable on the radar of Forbes income, forced me to train brain to not go out of business.

