Hardware effects anyone?

[thecontrolcentre]

Ooooh, I see how YOU are!

Laugh-it-up... while you're watching THIS:

That looks nice ... cheers

[thecontrolcentre]

The Reminder is so much more than another delay ... it has filter, reverb and LFO sections too. The delay by itself is pretty awesome. Just sayin' ...

[Silaris]

I have about 25 legacy rack effect units by Lexicon, Alesis, TC Electronics, ART, Digitech, and others. They are still in use to this day, and many are going for very good prices on the used market. As a bass and guitar players for over 2 decades, I have collected over a 100 pedals throughout the years. They also come in handy for distortion effects on synths in my studio.

[BONES]

The Reminder is so much more than another delay ... it has filter, reverb and LFO sections too.

Just like the $39 VST effect I linked to yesterday.

[cryophonik]

Yeah, we’re all aware of software multi-effects and there’s an entire subforum dedicated to them, if that’s what we wanted to discuss. This is a thread about hardware effects that is posted in the Hardware subforum.

[BONES]

OK, in that case, let me contribute to the discussion by saying that if you choose to use hardware effects over software, you're nucking futs, for the reason given yesterday and several others.

[cryophonik]

Yup. We’ll all be sure to let our shrinks know



And here’s a little secret that might blow your mind: some of the people posting in this thread are software developers and the rest of all use hardware AND software.

[pekbro]

Although it's software on a chip, the Timeline at least is pretty unique I believe. I don't think there is a delay plugin quite like it. It can do tons of stuff, external feedback loops, it's a looper, almost any parameter can be controlled by midi etc. Soundwise it is stellar, and I would bet you are not easily going to find any plugins that can match it's onboard floating point DSP performance, in regard to low latency processing and whatnot.

[thecontrolcentre]

Just like the $39 VST effect I linked to yesterday.

Which requires you to buy/own a fast internet connected computer and a DAW in order to download and use it

if you choose to use hardware effects over software, you're nucking futs

I (and many other hw users) choose to use both ... if you choose to limit yourself to cheap software then it's you that's nucking futs imho

[BONES]

It only requires some access to the internet and, as you're posting on an internet forum, you clearly have the means. You could do it easily enough using your phone's internet capability if you needed to and it would hardly put a dent in your monthly bandwidth allowance.

Ah, so it's only cheaper software that hardware can compete with, which kind of makes my point because even the most expensive software is still a fraction of the price of an equivalent hardware unit. And remember, we are talking specifically about digital hardware, or we were when I started, and that's all software, exactly like a VST plugin. Just like a VST plugin, it lives or dies on the strength of the DSP programming that goes into it, not on the timber used in the end-cheeks. In the end you are making serious sacrifices, yet paying a lot more money. e.g. With only 10 presets, REmindER wouldn't even be useful for a 45 minute set, where I'd need at least 12 patches if I wanted to use it in every song (and if 'd paid what they're asking for it, I would absolutely want to use it in every song).

[thecontrolcentre]

Ah, so it's only cheaper software that hardware can compete with, which kind of makes my point

I didn't say that and neither did anyone else. You do know you are in the hardware forum telling people that they're nuts for not using software, when we are (obviously) using BOTH.

With only 10 presets, REmindER wouldn't even be useful for a 45 minute set, where I'd need at least 12 patches if I wanted to use it in every song (and if 'd paid what they're asking for it, I would absolutely want to use it in every song).

Better not buy one then. I, on the other hand, have no delusions about using it live. Its for creative sampling, fun and recording ... and it stays in the studio. I have other kit for gigs.

[BONES]

No, you said EXACTLY that - "if you choose to limit yourself to cheap software", which clearly suggests that the alternative to hardware is cheap software. The logical conclusion, therefore, is that you don't believe that hardware is a viable alternative to more expensive software. I don't know how else you could interpret what you said.

So your $1000 delay sits in your studio whilst I can take Other Desert Cities ($100), Spaced Out ($50) and a dozen other superior software effects, like SSL's FlexVerb ($40), with me everywhere I go. There is nothing I can do in my studio that I can't also do on a bus, in an economy class aircraft seat or at the park up the road. So I am paying considerably less money and getting so much more. It might make the tiniest bit of sense if the hardware was cheaper, or maybe if it offered any unique features or superior sound quality but the reality is that it offers fewer features, lesser sound quality and yet costs a freakin' fortune. If wasting your money like that isn't the very definition of stupidity, then I don't know what the word means.

[thecontrolcentre]

No, you said EXACTLY that - "if you choose to limit yourself to cheap software", which clearly suggests that the alternative to hardware is cheap software.

No it doesn't ... and as I keep pointing out I USE BOTH.

So your $1000 delay sits in your studio whilst I can take Other Desert Cities ($100), Spaced Out ($50) and a dozen other superior software effects, like SSL's FlexVerb ($40), with me everywhere I go. There is nothing I can do in my studio that I can't also do on a bus, in an economy class aircraft seat or at the park up the road.

And your point is what? Hardware costs more than software? So?
Not everyone has the same needs as you.

If wasting your money like that isn't the very definition of stupidity, then I don't know what the word means.

Clearly you do not.

[cryophonik]

Any Dreadbox Typhon owners here? One of the standout features is the onboard Sinevibes effects and I recently saw some videos of people running other synths through them via the Typhon’s audio in. I need to try this…

[BONES]

Hardware costs more than software? So? Not everyone has the same needs as you.

It's got f**k-all to do with "needs" because they all do the same f**king thing. The fact you use both tends to prove this, don't you think?