senderella v1.06 - minor update
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- KVRAF
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
SEndEReLLa v1.06
Release info....
what's new in v1.06
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Began coding in c++ ... so this is a port from the original delphi version. The code is cleaned up quite a bit. There are now two versions of the dll included: original and simplified.
Original
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This has the same parameter map as the original delphi version.. it should be completely compatible accross projects using the delphi version (1.05 BETA). There is also a bug fix which resolves audio that could get stuck in the channel buffer when switching channel during playback (creating a buzzing noise)... it opens up one new possibility... you can now automate the channel parameter to stream audio to different sends.
Simplified
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This version only has two parameters. Mode (Send/Return), and Amount (% singal to send). You should take the simplified version dll and rename it something like send1.dll ... you can make copies of the dll for each additional send/return you'd like to have available. For example: send1,send2,send3,send4 Each dll can then only communicate to an identically named dll. This eliminates the need to use the channels in the original version.. also it gives you a nice visual cue.
Release info....
what's new in v1.06
-------------------
Began coding in c++ ... so this is a port from the original delphi version. The code is cleaned up quite a bit. There are now two versions of the dll included: original and simplified.
Original
--------
This has the same parameter map as the original delphi version.. it should be completely compatible accross projects using the delphi version (1.05 BETA). There is also a bug fix which resolves audio that could get stuck in the channel buffer when switching channel during playback (creating a buzzing noise)... it opens up one new possibility... you can now automate the channel parameter to stream audio to different sends.
Simplified
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This version only has two parameters. Mode (Send/Return), and Amount (% singal to send). You should take the simplified version dll and rename it something like send1.dll ... you can make copies of the dll for each additional send/return you'd like to have available. For example: send1,send2,send3,send4 Each dll can then only communicate to an identically named dll. This eliminates the need to use the channels in the original version.. also it gives you a nice visual cue.
ModuLR / Radio
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- KVRAF
- 10879 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from Austin, TX USA
Thanks for the update - downloading it now!
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
As if it wasn't simple enough before, now you've gone and performed minor genius! 
ModuLR, I can honestly say that of all the freeware I've ever acquired, yours is the stuff I use the most. I will start using sends now, with the "simplified" version, and have used StepChild [edit: used to say "Senderella"! Doh!] (along with T's sampler on "ignore release"!). But the reason I say yours is the freeware I use the most is because I use Tackywrapper each time I load a project-- not something that happens with just any piece of freeware.
Now, to get smart with my reverbs, finally.
Greg
ModuLR, I can honestly say that of all the freeware I've ever acquired, yours is the stuff I use the most. I will start using sends now, with the "simplified" version, and have used StepChild [edit: used to say "Senderella"! Doh!] (along with T's sampler on "ignore release"!). But the reason I say yours is the freeware I use the most is because I use Tackywrapper each time I load a project-- not something that happens with just any piece of freeware.
Now, to get smart with my reverbs, finally.
Greg
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- KVRian
- 736 posts since 8 May, 2002 from ... , germany
At first, thanks for yr great plugins.
I really enjoy using the Konstrux kit in Audiomulch.
Being a newbie Tracktion user for a couple of days now,
I wanted to try out the new Senderella version,
but both the original and the simplified version
always land on the plugins-to-ignore list after a plug rescan in Tracktion.
Plogue Bidule refused to load them, too.
Could it be that there are system files (msvcr*.dll, etc.) missing?
Do I have to have the .NET framework installed?
I use Tracktion Nfr on a WinXp Athlon 2200+ system.
Cheers,
tl.
I really enjoy using the Konstrux kit in Audiomulch.
Being a newbie Tracktion user for a couple of days now,
I wanted to try out the new Senderella version,
but both the original and the simplified version
always land on the plugins-to-ignore list after a plug rescan in Tracktion.
Plogue Bidule refused to load them, too.
Could it be that there are system files (msvcr*.dll, etc.) missing?
Do I have to have the .NET framework installed?
I use Tracktion Nfr on a WinXp Athlon 2200+ system.
Cheers,
tl.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
hmmm, gonna have to investigate that one cos it works fine here. I don't think I did anything odd when compiling them. Can anyone else confirm the latest version is a no go? 
ModuLR / Radio
- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 2 Feb, 2003 from lost in music
I gonna give it a try and come back later thenModuLR wrote:hmmm, gonna have to investigate that one cos it works fine here. I don't think I did anything odd when compiling them. Can anyone else confirm the latest version is a no go?
sound is vibration, vibration is life
- KVRAF
- 4176 posts since 2 Feb, 2003 from lost in music
I tried and it works here in Tracktion,
thou I dont have the NFR version.
I´m on P4 3,06 ht, WinXP home, midiman audiophile 2496
No idea why you have probs tl
thou I dont have the NFR version.
I´m on P4 3,06 ht, WinXP home, midiman audiophile 2496
No idea why you have probs tl
sound is vibration, vibration is life
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- KVRian
- 1222 posts since 6 Jul, 2004
Thanks for Senderella - I just started using the "simple" version with Tracktion NFR on XP-SP2, and it works great!
One thing though - is there a way of getting rid of the buzzing sound that occurs when you mute a track with an instance of senderella while others are open? I kinda would like to audit the dry/wet version of a track signal, but when all I get is BZZZ when muting the rest of the tracks, it's a bit hard!
(Of course, I realise the cause may well be buried within the Tracktion architecture, and nothing to do about...)
One thing though - is there a way of getting rid of the buzzing sound that occurs when you mute a track with an instance of senderella while others are open? I kinda would like to audit the dry/wet version of a track signal, but when all I get is BZZZ when muting the rest of the tracks, it's a bit hard!
(Of course, I realise the cause may well be buried within the Tracktion architecture, and nothing to do about...)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
I've been trying to figure out a way to out smart tracktion so it won't buzz when muting. I've got a hunch that when you hit mute, Tracktion stops calling the process routine in the VST. The problem is, it's the process routine where the audio fills the buffers... if it's not getting called (which it isn't when muted), I never have a chance to clear them.. thus the buzz. So I'm still thinking on this one... maybe there is a way, I just haven't figured one out yet.

ModuLR / Radio
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
slightly costly, but couldn't you copy the buffer (or at least some chunk of it) and compare it against the next cycle's buffer. If they match you can safely assume that the buffer is stale and zero it.
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- KVRian
- 830 posts since 13 Oct, 2003
thanx a lot, great idea with the simple version 
to the buzz problem:
maby you can send a float thats just for the recieving senderella on every (maby) 1000 samples that is much higher than the normal signal and count it up (3.0, 4.0, 5.0,...) and restart it after recieving maby 100. (or switch every time between 10.0 and -10.0) so you just have to look if it is the same like before and that would mean, that the sender is muted...
just a thought
to the buzz problem:
maby you can send a float thats just for the recieving senderella on every (maby) 1000 samples that is much higher than the normal signal and count it up (3.0, 4.0, 5.0,...) and restart it after recieving maby 100. (or switch every time between 10.0 and -10.0) so you just have to look if it is the same like before and that would mean, that the sender is muted...
just a thought
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
I think aldi migtht be on to something there... and the penalty shouldn't be much. Copying the buffer would require processing for every plug sending to a receiver.. pretty costly. I've got something mocked together.. it might work, then again.. it might not.. hehehe 
ModuLR / Radio

