KVR Audio

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 9:48 pm

guys, yeah having a bigger monitor is kinda nice but also shitty! i reached out to soundtoys and they are aware of the NON Resizable GUIs but quote "there are no plans currently to implement resizable GUIs for our plug-ins"..... wow. i love their plugins but thats a bummer

again they are aware of it, but it reads and sounds like it might take a WHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILE, if at all...

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:09 pm

Why would things be smaller on a bigger monitor?

I think what you mean is a screen with a higher resolution. If you have the same resolution on a bigger screen things get bigger as compared to a smaller one (but you typically also have to sit further away from the monitor, so that kind of compensates for it).

MrJubbly · Post by **MrJubbly** » Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:35 pm

For plugin's I am interested in, I generally have only two "deal-breaker" hurdles for any potential purchase:

(A) If they include any intricate controls, they MUST also have rescalable GUIs.

(B) They MUST NOT mandate the use of iLok (of any kind).

So long as they pass both of these two simple requirements, they're all good in my book, and get the 'green light' for the checkout.

jcredland · Post by **jcredland** » Wed Feb 23, 2022 3:39 pm

Some crazy people like to run 4k monitors without OS scaling, and then have all their apps do scaling instead.

It's become a thing. Nothing we can do to stand in the way of it!

PS. It's not had much press but BigKick now has scaling - download the latest build from Plugin Boutique.

gExpectations · Post by **gExpectations** » Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:44 am

even if you use os scaling vsts dont necessarily scale with it. i sold my soundtoys complete license, like the tools but i thought they are not fun to use, one of my main criteria, that black on black is barely ledgible, not resizable and odd layouts.

RobGee · Post by **RobGee** » Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:54 pm

They haven’t developed anything new in over 4 years, it doesn’t surprise me. Who knows what they’ve been doing in that time, not a lot by the looks of things

fese · Post by **fese** » Fri Feb 25, 2022 2:47 pm

I have no problem so far with the UI size of the soundtoys plugins, but some of the older versions (echoboy etc) are no fun to use because of fuzzy graphics/fonts and usability. The newer and the simpler plugins (microshift, LittlePlate, PrimalTap) are no problem. But then I don’t have a 4k screen (don’t want one)

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:28 am

What really surprised me just the other day is that the Rack doesn't include the plate reverb. Anyone knows why?

Broken · Post by **Broken** » Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:06 am

DrGonzo wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:28 am What really surprised me just the other day is that the Rack doesn't include the plate reverb. Anyone knows why?

The full/big version of the Plate reverb has not been released yet. Same goes for little Alterboy. So far it's only the full versions that are available in Effects Rack.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:30 am

Broken wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:06 am
DrGonzo wrote: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:28 am What really surprised me just the other day is that the Rack doesn't include the plate reverb. Anyone knows why?
The full/big version of the Plate reverb has not been released yet. Same goes for little Alterboy. So far it's only the full versions that are available in Effects Rack.

Ah... yes, that makes sense. Thanks for chiming in.

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:08 pm

RobGee wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:54 pm They haven’t developed anything new in over 4 years, it doesn’t surprise me. Who knows what they’ve been doing in that time, not a lot by the looks of things

Why do they need to? They have a set of first class industry go-to plug ins. I’m sure they have turkey every Christmas

RobGee · Post by **RobGee** » Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:49 pm

ramseysounds wrote: Sat Mar 05, 2022 1:08 pm
RobGee wrote: Fri Feb 25, 2022 12:54 pm They haven’t developed anything new in over 4 years, it doesn’t surprise me. Who knows what they’ve been doing in that time, not a lot by the looks of things
Why do they need to? They have a set of first class industry go-to plug ins. I’m sure they have turkey every Christmas

Considering the op was commenting on the lack of updates for resizable gui I think it’s fair to say he was being optimistic considering there’s been no new developments in over 4 years.

They’ve not even released full versions of little plate or alterboy. Let alone the vast amount of other improvements they could add. I mean why bother updating or improving anything?

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:05 pm

I mean why not just use what there is rather than constant belly aching of what you think they should do. There’s literally 1000’s of plug ins out there

plexuss · Post by **plexuss** » Sat Mar 05, 2022 4:40 pm

Soundtoys is one of the original "one off" devs: Devs that release a product and only do minimal to no updates until the product is abandoned. Seems this is a hard pill to swallow but there are many such devs and associated products out there. Many change their strategy from maintenance to abandon as well. It seems to be more common as time goes on.

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:02 pm

i always "considered" soundtoys to be Class A products? seems maybe still great plugins but with not much care handled.

Soundtoys Plugins still not resizable?!?! "there are no plans currently to implement resizable GUIs for our plug-ins"