Diva pitch wheel, glide and fine tune questions
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
Before I start I'm not a whizz on synthesis and am also very much a newbie with Diva so please bare with me.
Firstly, as there's no pitch wheel on Diva is there a way to automate pitch bends using Logic Pro X or is my only option to assign the pitch mod to my MIDI keyboard wheel and record it 'live'?
Secondly, when using the triple VCO how do I fine tune the oscillator, if I rotate the tune mod knob nothing appears to happen?
Lastly, can someone explain in dummy language how the glide and range knobs work in relation to portamento please as the manual is a little confusing (to me at least)? Also, underneath this it says transpose, what is this for? With regards to glide is there a way so that the first note glides up at the start, as though you've got a 'ghost note' just before it?
Thanks in advance.
Firstly, as there's no pitch wheel on Diva is there a way to automate pitch bends using Logic Pro X or is my only option to assign the pitch mod to my MIDI keyboard wheel and record it 'live'?
Secondly, when using the triple VCO how do I fine tune the oscillator, if I rotate the tune mod knob nothing appears to happen?
Lastly, can someone explain in dummy language how the glide and range knobs work in relation to portamento please as the manual is a little confusing (to me at least)? Also, underneath this it says transpose, what is this for? With regards to glide is there a way so that the first note glides up at the start, as though you've got a 'ghost note' just before it?
Thanks in advance.
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- 2171 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
I can answer a few of the points.
Pitch Bend
You automate pitch bend just like with any other plugin in Logic.
Create a MIDI region, in there click to show automation, and select Pitch Bend from the list.
In Diva's tuning section you can set the up and down transposition values for the pitch wheel.
Osc fine tune
The Tune Mod knob is for adjusting the depth of an assigned modulation source.
The source is assigned to the left of the Tune Mod knob.
For fine tuning of the oscillator use the Detune knob.
To set it in even finer increments, hold the Shift key while turning the knob.
Transpose
The transpose setting simply transposes the overall tune of Diva by the set amount of semitones.
Pitch Bend
You automate pitch bend just like with any other plugin in Logic.
Create a MIDI region, in there click to show automation, and select Pitch Bend from the list.
In Diva's tuning section you can set the up and down transposition values for the pitch wheel.
Osc fine tune
The Tune Mod knob is for adjusting the depth of an assigned modulation source.
The source is assigned to the left of the Tune Mod knob.
For fine tuning of the oscillator use the Detune knob.
To set it in even finer increments, hold the Shift key while turning the knob.
Transpose
The transpose setting simply transposes the overall tune of Diva by the set amount of semitones.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
Thanks for the reply. With regards to fine tuning I've found that the detune doesn't affect oscillator 1 so if I want to fine tune I need to use Osc 2 or 3.tasmaniandevil wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:26 am I can answer a few of the points.
Pitch Bend
You automate pitch bend just like with any other plugin in Logic.
Create a MIDI region, in there click to show automation, and select Pitch Bend from the list.
In Diva's tuning section you can set the up and down transposition values for the pitch wheel.
Osc fine tune
The Tune Mod knob is for adjusting the depth of an assigned modulation source.
The source is assigned to the left of the Tune Mod knob.
For fine tuning of the oscillator use the Detune knob.
To set it in even finer increments, hold the Shift key while turning the knob.
Transpose
The transpose setting simply transposes the overall tune of Diva by the set amount of semitones.
I still can't figure out the pitch wheel automation so I need to spend some more time on this. If I look at the automation list (of which there's A LOT) for Diva, the only pitch wheel ones I can find are in the VCC section and say pitchwheel up and pitchwheel down and if I draw in automation lines nothing seems to happen.
With regards to transpose I think what through me was that when I selected the triple VCO it was set to -12 but I must have already been on a preset without realising
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tasmaniandevil tasmaniandevil https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=62450
- KVRAF
- 2171 posts since 22 Mar, 2005 from a planet called u-he
Pitch wheel in Logic isn't automated on the track.snerkler wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:02 am I still can't figure out the pitch wheel automation so I need to spend some more time on this. If I look at the automation list (of which there's A LOT) for Diva, the only pitch wheel ones I can find are in the VCC section and say pitchwheel up and pitchwheel down and if I draw in automation lines nothing seems to happen.
It's automated in the MIDI region, as I explained in my previous post.
This is not specific to Diva, that's how this works in Logic.
Create a MIDI region, double-click to open it, click the automation icon in there, and then choose the Pitch Bend from the list of available MIDI controllers.
The up and down parameters define the maximum semitone range of the pitch wheel, as already explained. Automating those parameters isn't necessary.
That QA guy from planet u-he.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
Ahh sorry I get what you mean now, I guess it's the terminology. MIDI regions are what's in the main arrange window hence me looking in the track automation, it's the MIDI in the piano roll that I now see has the automation.tasmaniandevil wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:27 amPitch wheel in Logic isn't automated on the track.snerkler wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 11:02 am I still can't figure out the pitch wheel automation so I need to spend some more time on this. If I look at the automation list (of which there's A LOT) for Diva, the only pitch wheel ones I can find are in the VCC section and say pitchwheel up and pitchwheel down and if I draw in automation lines nothing seems to happen.
It's automated in the MIDI region, as I explained in my previous post.
This is not specific to Diva, that's how this works in Logic.
Create a MIDI region, double-click to open it, click the automation icon in there, and then choose the Pitch Bend from the list of available MIDI controllers.
The up and down parameters define the maximum semitone range of the pitch wheel, as already explained. Automating those parameters isn't necessary.
Thanks for the help
- KVRAF
- 4197 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Firstly,"Glide" and "Portamento" are the same thing (though we generally prefer the shorter word): With the Glide time turned up a bit, holding one note down then playing another should always "sweep" pitches. That's glide a.k.a. portamentosnerkler wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:28 amLastly, can someone explain in dummy language how the glide and range knobs work in relation to portamento please as the manual is a little confusing (to me at least)?
Secondly, Glide affects all oscillators and the main filter while Glide2 adds or subtracts from the Glide value for VCO 2 and VCO 3 only i.e. it doesn't affect VCO 1. The point is that you can make those modules glide at different speeds, which can be an interesting effect.
Thirdly, the Range knob in the TUNING panel, normally set to maximum, can be turned down so that any glide is not so dramatic (AFAIK this is unique feature of certain u-he synths). With Range set to below maximum the glide will start at a pitch that is immediately closer to the newly played note. At minimum Range you won't hear any glide at all, whatever values Glide and Glide2 have.
I hope this makes sense to you - happy experimenting!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 23 Jan, 2022
Thanks very much, that makes much more senseHoward wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:29 pmFirstly,"Glide" and "Portamento" are the same thing (though we generally prefer the shorter word): With the Glide time turned up a bit, holding one note down then playing another should always "sweep" pitches. That's glide a.k.a. portamentosnerkler wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:28 amLastly, can someone explain in dummy language how the glide and range knobs work in relation to portamento please as the manual is a little confusing (to me at least)?![]()
Secondly, Glide affects all oscillators and the main filter while Glide2 adds or subtracts from the Glide value for VCO 2 and VCO 3 only i.e. it doesn't affect VCO 1. The point is that you can make those modules glide at different speeds, which can be an interesting effect.
Thirdly, the Range knob in the TUNING panel, normally set to maximum, can be turned down so that any glide is not so dramatic (AFAIK this is unique feature of certain u-he synths). With Range set to below maximum the glide will start at a pitch that is immediately closer to the newly played note. At minimum Range you won't hear any glide at all, whatever values Glide and Glide2 have.
I hope this makes sense to you - happy experimenting!
