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sonicpowa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:16 pm
crickey13 wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:33 am What are texturizers BTW? Some kind of low-level excitation noise or something? Any examples?
I think texturizers can be grouped as adding some texture; like noise, saturation, spectral shaping etc.
fairlyclose wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:35 amhow did you do the test and what was the output? Looking at something like Devious Machines Texture that is the sort of process I alluded to earlier. However it is generating the texture where they might be being a little bit clever - as I also alluded to.
Just copy your track. Add the plugin to one, invert the other and level match them. The track itself is then out of phase and just the effect remains. It´s noise correlated and modulated with music.

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So it's a kind of dynamic dither at the noisefloor?

Could have sworn Airwindows did extensive research in this area...

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Tried it quickly on some tracks. It destroyed clean tracks (something like phase issues adds uggly/distortion/noise). WTF.. is this a joke?
Maybe my material is sensetive...

Plugin analyzer shows funny random behaviour on sine waves...ugh.
Seriously... wtf... :)

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MogwaiBoy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:29 pm So it's a kind of dynamic dither at the noisefloor?
Well, it´s not so dynamic, and not doing dithering, and not at the noisefloor.

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sonicpowa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:54 pm
MogwaiBoy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:29 pm So it's a kind of dynamic dither at the noisefloor?
Well, it´s not so dynamic, and not doing dithering, and not at the noisefloor.
Have you analysed the residual? Does it have the same power spectrum as the music?

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That’s got to be the worst marketing blurb in the history of audio plugins… makes even IK Multimedial’s product announcements look like a no nonsense instruction manual.

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for anyone who is interested my guess is they are using a variant of the surrogate data techniques described in this article and others by Theiler https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/a ... 899290102S

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Is this like all those pills and potions that never made my dick bigger? But it might make me think my dick is bigger? So it's a dick biggerizer?

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Apparently, lots of ME is using it. Also Fidef seems to be a few years old already.
I wonder why, in some videos, when they're talking about it, there's music and visual effects typical for a "fairy tale, magic 432GHz Hitlah magic frequencies" BS.
Then I saw another video from one of Fidef preachers, talking for whole 10 minutes about the Correlation meter and 'magic' of Stereo Flip button (plugin from MAAT of course).
The overall vibe of people related to this tech reminds me of audiophile-sectarians - not the best image I would say.

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fairlyclose wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:11 pm
sonicpowa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:54 pm
MogwaiBoy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:29 pm So it's a kind of dynamic dither at the noisefloor?
Well, it´s not so dynamic, and not doing dithering, and not at the noisefloor.
Have you analysed the residual? Does it have the same power spectrum as the music?
Yes the same power spectrum, but subtle emphasis on some frequency areas.

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sonicpowa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 11:24 pm
fairlyclose wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:11 pm
sonicpowa wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 9:54 pm
MogwaiBoy wrote: Fri Mar 11, 2022 7:29 pm So it's a kind of dynamic dither at the noisefloor?
Well, it´s not so dynamic, and not doing dithering, and not at the noisefloor.
Have you analysed the residual? Does it have the same power spectrum as the music?
Yes the same power spectrum, but subtle emphasis on some frequency areas.
most likely then one of the surrogate data methods for generating the noise I linked to above and then processing that through a filter to enhance psychoacoustically desirable features.

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An audio professional, an audio physicist, and a musical neuroscientist walk into a bar...
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP

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What about aliasing? Does it oversample?
Also, does it cramp when nearing nyquist?

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How smooth is the plugin parameter modulation

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