MDrummer 15.02 is very glitchy and stutters for me...
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 12 May, 2019
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
In the next versions there will be a fallback option for computers without SSDs. The new version feature parallel loading, which works great on SSDs, but not so much on HDDs (which I thought aren't really used anymore, ups
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 262 posts since 23 Jul, 2008
I'm glad there will be a fix. But out of curiosity, are HDD's really that outdated? I have never owned an SSD, so it seems to me that I can't be the only person here with HDDs in my computer. Am I?
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- KVRist
- 59 posts since 30 Dec, 2018
To follow-up, it seems that disabling "Multi-core" reduces (or possibly eliminates, need to test more before confirming) the stuttering/glitches for me. Is the use of "Multi-core" realistically associated with potential stuttering/glitches on the first sample play-through?TommyC81 wrote: Wed Mar 02, 2022 6:20 pm Hi there, I'm also hearing stutters and glitches on the first play through of drum loops that require previously unused sounds/drums. This continues until, seemingly, all samples are loaded proper. I've been kind of used to the same in Kontakt so haven't given it much thought or investigation of why it happens or what can be done to alleviate it.
To note that I was experiencing the same stuttering/glitches on both my older Win10 computer (older Intel 4-core something CPU, with HDD), and also my newer Win10 computer (i7-8700K@5Ghz with a fast SSD).
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 12 May, 2019
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 12 May, 2019
The general move is toward an SSD for samples and HDD for long-term storage. A 2TB SSD is $230 and everything loads more quickly. Believe me, I understand being budget-constrained but I've moved to an nvme system drive and cache and regular ssd for samples and it's nice not to deal with slow drives. If I could, I'd use SSD for storage but forget about an 8TB ssd. I'll mention that SSDs are silent whereas HDDs are not. If you are concerned about sound leakage during recording, you might consider this.edkilp wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:34 pm I'm glad there will be a fix. But out of curiosity, are HDD's really that outdated? I have never owned an SSD, so it seems to me that I can't be the only person here with HDDs in my computer. Am I?
So, yes, depending on who you ask, SSD is standard now.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 262 posts since 23 Jul, 2008
It has nothing to do with being budget-constrained. My computer works beautifully, all the time. I have about 10TB of storage on 3 HDD's. I've never had a reason to switch to an SSD. If I bought a new PC today, would I still be able to add a few SATA HDD's in addition to the SSD I'm sure will be there for the OS?
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 12 May, 2019
Depending on the PC, you can add HDD drives internally via SATA connection or externally via USB. Alternatively, you could set up a Network Attached Storage and access that via ethernet (or even wirelessly) but I'm not sure what the latency is like.edkilp wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:38 pm It has nothing to do with being budget-constrained. My computer works beautifully, all the time. I have about 10TB of storage on 3 HDD's. I've never had a reason to switch to an SSD. If I bought a new PC today, would I still be able to add a few SATA HDD's in addition to the SSD I'm sure will be there for the OS?
- KVRist
- 377 posts since 19 Jul, 2013 from Chile
SSD for OS, programs and samples. Yes!. Also for projects am working on, or could be. Plus all that could be needed to DJ.Hexspa wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 8:09 pm The general move is toward an SSD for samples and HDD for long-term storage.
For long-term storage?
SSDs are not designed for this purpose. In fact they need to be plugged in and used with some frequency. Trim re-arranges memory to avoid losses.
Let's remember that Data gets vanished within time in SSDs, stored electrons escape from cells, more so if three (TLC), or four (QLC) bits per cell, memory is used. Plus they are subject to electromagnetic events, not common but there are sources of them.
So far, HDDs are the cheaper long-term storage solution for data retrieval. However HDDs are not the better endurance, safest format.
So for that we need a third support device/system. Online cloud safe keeping is a good option, but not free of all risk by itself. Would you held the Beatles original files only on the cloud?
I use the safer (500 years duration), electromagnetic-pulse proof, optic storage; M-Disc Bluray.
Each disc, for US$3+ provides 25 or 50GBs, enough for a copy of the largest musical projects, entirely. Of which double copies are kept at separate locations. If data (creations) are too unique and relevant, go in there.
Plus, perfect media to deliver musicians/customers with their files neatly packaged.
4, 8, 12 TBs would mean a lot of Discs though. 1 GB are 20 units, so each CD case book may contain 2 TBs anyway. And once recorded with an M-Disc enabled recorder, they may be played with all common Bluray players.
- KVRian
- 965 posts since 12 May, 2019
^ Plus there are a couple other optical storage systems including DVD, etc. But like nspace says, it's a lot of discs.
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- KVRian
- 539 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
I installed Steven Slate Drums 5.5, BFD3 and Meldadrummer on a GPD P2 Max with Intel m3-8100y and
16gb RAM and 512GB ssd. B.t.w. anybody knows how hungry Superior drummer is?
SSD5 and BFD3 work in combination with The Roland HPD20 as a little live virtual Drummer Solution. MDrummer has hickups and does not work on lowest Latency as the other 2 VSTs
... and I can't use continuous Hihat Padal controll for having a closed to open Hihat on one Pad with MDrummer anyway 
I don't need any FX, it should just play the samples and for that the computer should be sufficiant... In BFD I can even use lots of FX.
16gb RAM and 512GB ssd. B.t.w. anybody knows how hungry Superior drummer is?
SSD5 and BFD3 work in combination with The Roland HPD20 as a little live virtual Drummer Solution. MDrummer has hickups and does not work on lowest Latency as the other 2 VSTs
I don't need any FX, it should just play the samples and for that the computer should be sufficiant... In BFD I can even use lots of FX.
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- KVRian
- 539 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
I have to correct myself!
I was wrong, assuming MDrummer used more recources than SSD5 & BFD. I don't know why, it works now. I think I changed the loading preferences and everything is VERY smooth now.
Also I made progress using Hihat pedal. So far it is not as versatile as with the others, but I found it is really on the right way!!!
I bet MDrummer could be next candidate for some workflow GUI optimations. I think it has A LOT of potential!!!!
I was wrong, assuming MDrummer used more recources than SSD5 & BFD. I don't know why, it works now. I think I changed the loading preferences and everything is VERY smooth now.
Also I made progress using Hihat pedal. So far it is not as versatile as with the others, but I found it is really on the right way!!!
I bet MDrummer could be next candidate for some workflow GUI optimations. I think it has A LOT of potential!!!!
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- KVRian
- 539 posts since 25 Aug, 2006
One annoying bug concerning Pedal controlled Hihat:
When I play 8th notes on the hihat pad, open the pedal, let the hihat ring, it should stop with next closing of the Pedal. If I hit (thats normal when playing drums) the hihat then again in the moment the pedal closes, the open hihat DOES NOT STOP
When I play 8th notes on the hihat pad, open the pedal, let the hihat ring, it should stop with next closing of the Pedal. If I hit (thats normal when playing drums) the hihat then again in the moment the pedal closes, the open hihat DOES NOT STOP
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MeldaProduction MeldaProduction https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=176122
- KVRAF
- 14339 posts since 15 Mar, 2008 from Czech republic
Please record some performance with that (ideally in reaper) and send it over.
