Hi!
I use bitwig with linux. I am trying to stay on linux as much as I can for my workflow. I pay for good linux audio software - including u-he stuff. I purchased hive, presswerk, mfm2, bazille and zebra2.
I still have a NI komplete 11 license though. But NI will never support linux I am afraid. Still, there's good stuff there. Sometimes I am lured into their updating offers...
So again this time, where they are offering an upgrade to komplete 13 with https://www.izotope.com/en/shop/music-p ... ite-4.html iZotope production suite 4.1
My weak side in my tracks is mastering, and tools to "disentangle" the mix, making it sound well balanced, modern and as pro as possible (I am aware that as a hobbyist, I can't be pro, but I try to get as close as possible. Tools can help).
I'd rather spend the update money on u-he stuff if there's comparable tooling there... I haven't used any of iZotope stuff and I am just attracted by the upgrade offer...is it worth it? Anything comparable on linux? Any suggestion?
iZotope 4.1 production suite - anything comparable in the u-he world?
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 4 Sep, 2018
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- KVRist
- 93 posts since 24 Oct, 2021 from Wellington, New Zealand
They both take pretty different approaches. iZotope stuff is quite digital/clean, with useful tools for precise audio repair, mastering, and tonal control. U-he typically takes a more classic approach, with a warmer sound and usability in mind (since a lot of their stuff is analog emulations.) Still, they aren’t lacking in the features department at all.
If you want a full toolkit for mastering/mixing like you said, I'd go with the bundle.
Better yet, demo all of them and see which one fits best
If you want a full toolkit for mastering/mixing like you said, I'd go with the bundle.
Better yet, demo all of them and see which one fits best
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I would have thought that even a ten-second glance at U-he product would have quite clearly indicated they dont do noise reduction software, mastering packages, or complex AI-based EQ systems, and are quite fundamentally focussed on synths and effects plugins, not the mixing and postproduction tools that izotope focus on.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- Beware the Quoth
- 35449 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Also; there's no native Linux version of the izotope stuff in the first place.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 15 posts since 4 Sep, 2018
Yes I am aware the iZotope stuff is not native linux - that's why I am asking for alternatives here.
What I am getting from these responses is that iZotope is quite in a niche (though I am generally more for the warmer side than the digital/clean side), especially regarding audio restoration and tonal control.
U-he really "only" has Presswerk as far as I can see in this category. A great tool for sure, and I use it, but lacking the skills at mastering, I tend to use always the same presets. It's probably though not to blame for some dullness in my mixes...I am a hobbyist.
I am also getting to the conclusion though that even if iZotope may be great stuff, it would diverge from my linux workflow back to windows, which I definitely don't want.
But this might be an area for u-he to come up with a new great tool I guess...
What I am getting from these responses is that iZotope is quite in a niche (though I am generally more for the warmer side than the digital/clean side), especially regarding audio restoration and tonal control.
U-he really "only" has Presswerk as far as I can see in this category. A great tool for sure, and I use it, but lacking the skills at mastering, I tend to use always the same presets. It's probably though not to blame for some dullness in my mixes...I am a hobbyist.
I am also getting to the conclusion though that even if iZotope may be great stuff, it would diverge from my linux workflow back to windows, which I definitely don't want.
But this might be an area for u-he to come up with a new great tool I guess...
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- KVRAF
- 7145 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
Check Harrison's products and see if any of their native Linux products will meet your needs:holoniverse wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:10 pm Hi!
I use bitwig with linux. I am trying to stay on linux as much as I can for my workflow. I pay for good linux audio software - including u-he stuff. I purchased hive, presswerk, mfm2, bazille and zebra2.
I still have a NI komplete 11 license though. But NI will never support linux I am afraid. Still, there's good stuff there. Sometimes I am lured into their updating offers...
So again this time, where they are offering an upgrade to komplete 13 with https://www.izotope.com/en/shop/music-p ... ite-4.html iZotope production suite 4.1
My weak side in my tracks is mastering, and tools to "disentangle" the mix, making it sound well balanced, modern and as pro as possible (I am aware that as a hobbyist, I can't be pro, but I try to get as close as possible. Tools can help).
I'd rather spend the update money on u-he stuff if there's comparable tooling there... I haven't used any of iZotope stuff and I am just attracted by the upgrade offer...is it worth it? Anything comparable on linux? Any suggestion?
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Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
NI inadvertantly support linux, by way of decent coding skill, allowing for user-discovered workarounds, usually just simple filesystem issues, easily overcome. I used Kontakt last night with the Kinetic Metal library, great fun. That was in Bodhi Linux V6, with linux Reaper 6.52, wine-staging 7.5, and plugins wrapped as linux vst's by yabridge 3.8holoniverse wrote: Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:10 pm But NI will never support linux I am afraid. Still, there's good stuff there. Sometimes I am lured into their updating offers...
Ask Izotope to start using Native Access as their reg system, their current reg setup flops like a beached carp in linux.
The mentioned Harrison Mixbus linux daw is indeed a good mastering setup, and they have many specialized plugins, frequent sales and bundle offers. Record some Zebra in Bitwig, process it in a Mixbus demo, and compare the two waveforms...
Cheers