Cubase 11 Pro or Studio One 5 Pro

[_leras]

What Cubase lacks is a dedicated control surface, like a faderport for Studio One.

Well.... there are these amazing Yamaha NUAGE things.

[_leras]

What is the Steinberg CC 121? Isn't that a DAW controller specifically built for Cubendo? It uses the same icons, colours, and layout as the target DAW. So it's not a situation unique to Push at all. I doubt there's many using it as a generic MIDI controller oustide of Cubase (as there's better suited alternatives), plus you can also map the Push, outside of Ableton, if you really want to..

Yes, a small controller and one channel mixer with a high precision motorised fader.

It's actually really good for mixing.

My main gripe with it was that I couldn't map the EQ controls to third party (UAD) EQs in a completely seamless way.

[Trensharo]

[But this still seems to ignore something obvious. Why would new users buy their software from Thomann?!

To save money.

Thomann and Best Service are discounted beyond what the vendor is selling for, and sometimes hilariously so - over $100 cheaper in some cases. On top of that, no taxes here.

It's worth buying there and getting the dongle from Amazon or Guitar Center.

Cubase no longer dongled, so the saving are even higher.