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BONES · Post by **BONES** » Fri Mar 25, 2022 6:28 am

pierb wrote: Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:16 pm So far I haven't found a perfect DAW. I wish I could do a mashup of multiple DAWs. If Ableton Live or Bitwig implemented some features from Cubase, either of these would perfect for me, unfortunately these are way too focused on a particular use case.

OTOH, my complaint about every DAW I have tried is that they contain too much shit I never want to deal with. My perfect DAW would be one with 90% of the crap they throw in there to sell more licenses removed and only the actual useful things retained.

Shame ReWire is dead.

Whereas I see the death of ReWire as a good start at harmonising standards. ReWire only made sense while Propellerheads refused to support VST.

flori89 · Post by **flori89** » Fri Mar 25, 2022 1:53 pm

I bought S1 not because it was cheap, but because I really liked it. The difference to Ableton (my second choice) wasn't that large, it's not that 200$ more would have ruined me financially, so if I really thought Ableton would have been a better fit, I would have gotten it.

And I'm really happy with S1, so I think I made the right choice.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Fri Mar 25, 2022 2:57 pm

tommyzai wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:53 pm *If money didn't matter, would you choose the same DAW? Why? Which?
*Was your DAW of choice influenced by financial factors?

Cubase

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:13 pm

my DAW of choice was not chosen for price. I was in Guitar Center asking about Pro Tools, which is all I'd ever heard of, and someone else trying to talk to the salesperson intervened, 'No no no, Pro Tools requires all this extra hardware, what you want is Cubase'. It was probably $349 in 2003, SX1. I was spending my money trying to get going.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 3:15 pm

Oh, btw Nuendo 11 is on sale, there will be a Nuendo 12 this year as well so the marketing of course is buy this now and get Nuendo 12 for free.

vurt · Post by **vurt** » Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:18 pm

id get elon musk to code me my own personal host, in the dashboard of one of his apocalypse vans, with roof mounted flamethrowers, that fire, every time i tweak filter cutoff.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 12:10 am

I would say that Ableton Live Suite + (your other DAW of choice) would let you accomplish anything.

Live Suite supplies an insane amount of content with the included sounds, software instruments, effects, and extras such as Max for Live devices. Plus the clip based session view is the industry standard for live performance with a bulletproof audio engine.

Your other DAW should supply things that Live does not. My choice for that would be Studio One Pro, with the built in notation from Notion and many extras like the chord and arranger tracks, the scratchpads, and the project mastering features.

If you are using MIDI hardware synths you may prefer Cubase, or Cakewalk, for ease of setting them up and controlling them. Maybe Logic as well but since I am not Mac based, have never used that. Cubase, Cakewalk, and Logic were the leaders back in the early days for MIDI hardware support.

If on a budget, Reaper cannot be beat for Audio + MIDI recording in a super stable, light, and totally reliable DAW. Reaper has an extraordinary track routing ability that is IMO unmatched by any other DAW.

Jmf1928 · Post by **Jmf1928** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 8:10 am

jclosed wrote: Wed Mar 16, 2022 6:01 pm If money did not matter? I probably would have the same stuff I have now. Cubase and Bitwig as DAW, and Omnisphere, Trilian, Stylus RMX and HaLion as main soft synths (with BFD, Ezdrummer, Voltage Modular, Absynth 5 and FM8 as second stuff). I probably would buy Keyscape and the Sonic Extensions from Spectrasonics as well as Zebra, but no other DAW.

I tried and sold a lot of DAW's in the past, but Cubase in combination with Bitwig is for me the most relaxed and comfortable configuration I have the pleasure of working with over all the years I use music software.

Do you use them at the same time? I find that sequencing in Bitwig and recording the MIDI to Cubase is not a bad workflow for me.

DizzlerMusic · Post by **DizzlerMusic** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:07 pm

I would still use Fl Studio because thats what i started with and i used it for over 10 years now, so i know every hidden menu and knob in it

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Mon Apr 11, 2022 5:58 pm

FLS is getting interesting after you realize that a pattern can have multiple loopable regions (so no need to create a new one for every small change)

and all of them can be edited together, pure genius

pretty complex evolving patterns can be built with it

tommyzai · Post by **tommyzai** » Fri Dec 06, 2024 2:31 am

It's 2025, and you have an extra $1000 or so to spend on a DAW, which would you choose?

Penguin Classics · Post by **Penguin Classics** » Fri Dec 06, 2024 2:41 am

If money was no object I would buy Apple then pay a team of people to add Bitwig style modulators to Logic and to be able to pass midi through plugins - I would then buy Vital Audio and add Vital as a stock synth and pay the guy a fortune to keep working full time on it then it would be game over for everyone else and I would think about making some music at that point.

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:15 am

tommyzai wrote: Mon Mar 14, 2022 10:53 pm *If money didn't matter, would you choose the same DAW? Why? Which?
*Was your DAW of choice influenced by financial factors?

If money could fix the problem I have with DAWs I'd be a happy camper.

kae · Post by **kae** » Fri Dec 06, 2024 7:09 am

If money were no object I'd convince Synapse to revive Orion and hire a dev team to further develop it.

Scrubbing Monkeys · Post by **Scrubbing Monkeys** » Fri Dec 06, 2024 11:03 am

Probably. Logic if it came with hardware.....but then I would be prisioner...soooo Reaper still.

Which DAW: If Money Were No Object?