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ttoz wrote:I am seriously considering just selling EVERYTHING and starting over. :cry:
Maybe not sell everything, but restricting yourself to a few well chosen synth that you know very well would probably be wise; sell the rest, just to make sure you won't be tempted again.




blabering mode on...

I've been in a creative blackhole for the past few weeks; in the meantime, I was pilling up VST's on my hard drive like there was no tommorrow. Related? I think so; I think it was a futile attempt to compensate for my lack of ideas (or maybe find inspiration?). The thing is, it just got worse; too many options, not enough focus. Here's a key word I think: Focus; focus on what you really need, delete the rest. A side bonus will be the stability of your system.


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You should consider configuring your working machine properly and spend some serious effort on that. Also to reduce installed samplers/synths/effects to 1 item per unique purpose. Throw everything out which isn't the best at what it does in your arsenal and doesn't offer anything unique - that you *need* - on top of the rest.

I am working on music usually more than 12 hours a day, and nothing crashes ever in my normal working environment (normal as in its not a piece of music software I betatest, and I only got 1 beta installed at a time at the max).

anyway.. its not the tools causing this problem

Markus

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ttoz wrote: I had ..Windows 95

Did my machine EVER crash? i swear to you, it never did in an entire year, not one single crash. ever.
seriously, this must be a bit of selective memory as I remember crashing win95 almost by the hour!
w2k and SX2 have been so stable for me, other than the occassional poof when I've installed some new plug (which immediately gets removed).
I sense your desparation, though. Maybe you need to do a fresh install and start over.

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ttoz wrote:I am seriously considering just selling EVERYTHING and starting over. :cry:
ttoz .. whatever you do next on your oddissey, you may want to try a diffrent approach of thinking about all this.

well, here´s why.

1. even though you seem to have lots of problems with computers (from pc to mac to pc and nothing got really better, right?) you know you could still do music. yes, even when things crash and crash again you can do music inbetween the crashes .. this may sounds silly but is still true .. and if you really want to do music you have to accept these crashes .. the other option wuld be to turn off the computer or to just surf the net.

i say this ´cause i had one year of mac-nightmare with a 1,25dual g4 which was repaired 3 (!!) times, meaning that they completely changed everything inside the computer. it still didnt work .. :hihi: .. now apple sent me a new 1,42 dual g4 which i sell as i am on a g5 meanwhile. (and thats really a top machine, so i finally found relief).

and in this one year i flooded the osxaudio.com forums with 1247 posts full of moaning, ranting, crying .. :lol:

but then again i earn my money from making the music with my computer, so i simply had to live with these crashes to get my work done. sure, thats terrible and sucks so much energy .. but in the end the music was there, and thats what counts.

ttoz, i am like you: a plugin nerd, a music-software nerd, so i know how this feeling you have now sucks.

my impression is that software these days is powerful and everything, but having all these formats makes everything complicated. or look at the modern OS´, see how powerful but at the same time compicated they are, behind the hood.

osX for example is fantastic when it works, and thats what it also does most of the time. but when you get in trouble you often dont have no clue why there are troubles, how to solve them. with os9 it was easy to determine the problems if you had some experience.

It is about time that sequencers and hosts CANT get crashed by a single plugin, it has to become impossible. let the plugin itself crash, but dont give it the power to crash the whole host.
thats what we need .. and interestingly we already have it with our OS´ .. osX and windows XP, where applications cant crash the whole OS.
now let´s apply the same principle to hosts .. :)

anyway, technology is a beast ..

ttoz .. good luck!

putte
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ttoz wrote:I am seriously considering just selling EVERYTHING and starting over. :cry:
that'd make a change...

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I dunno, I use a whole lot of programs, and plenty of free and paid for VST's with no problems at all. I use windows, Linux and am experimenting with pearpc to run OSX in Linux environment.

As for winxp (main source of music tools) I never ever have problems with crashing, and if I do I pinpoint the problem and eliminate it. Which I might add is not often, usually the most crashes I get are when using Synth edit.

My advice for VST's is install one at a time, and make sure they work! I have had a few things like RealGuitar, which have crashed, but I was able to pinpoint that (It crashes in Ableton Live 4). I did have problems while using Acid Pro 5.0 and promptly uninstalled that POS.

I have to say that normorally in order to use a computer with minimal problems you have to know about em, and be able to troubleshoot issues, and you have to not install random crap from day 1 (I know it’s hard not to clutter up all the crap)

I do however format and reinstall everything about 1 time a year, just to clean house. I recommend you have a big HD or a DVD burner at the least to back it all up and do a fresh install with full formatting.

Most crashes are involved with virus, and or defected OS files. Most music software is relatively stable in my experience in Win XP, and even Linux... I am new to Mac land so I can really specify about stability, first I have to make pearpc faster than emulated 800 MHz or it’s useless to use the Mac environment.

I honestly support having allot of options in terms of synths and stuff; I mean it has never held me back. As long as you can use the synthesizers it shouldn’t be a problem. Although if you never ever use it you might as well get rid of it. But I always like to have as many options on my plate as possible. Usually getting the block of making something usually requires a few days break from whatever routine you’re in. At least that works for me....

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ttoz wrote:actually, i have had cubase crashes so severe that I have had to force xp shut with the power button.
:?

ouch ..

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Hypertone wrote:I would hate to use Linux for music, as I like to make music, not muck around with the OS. I never could get into Linux, it was way more troublesome than XP.
Say an audio software company makes a turnkey version of Linux for it's host, then you have the fastest, leanest OS designed with audio in mind, without all the nonsense of XP or OSX.
f**k I don't know? Sounds good to me? and yeah I know it's a pipe dream. :?

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ttoz, no offence mate, but from the way you're see-sawing backwards and forwards on kit, are you sure that the real problem is actually technical rather than something else? (like, say, an olde-fashioned lack of drive, or inspiration?)
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ttoz,

I have a very stable sx2 rig, but I have noticed a few things:
- never do an upgrade install of *anything* if you can avoid it. Rather uninstall and start fresh each time. I had a lot of problems initially when I moved from sx1 to sx2 because I installed 2 over 1. As soon as I installed sx2 from fresh, these went away, never to return
- software problems are often caused by hardware. This seems incredibly counter intuitive but there are two hardware faults that will definitely cause application errors: RAM and PSU. If either is defective you will have loads of inexplicable problems. Also, make sure your PSU has enough juice for your system
- cubase isn't a huge fan of projects started in previous versions. I am going to finish all my SX2 projects in SX2 and start new projects only in SX3.

You may well know all of this, but then again maybe you don't

Anyway, hope it helps...

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