Neuro Bass with MPowerSynth-Wobble/LFO Rate

[musicman714]

I used to use Massive and would create Reese style bass patches that would wobble faster at higher pitches and slower at lower pitches, my LFO in MPS is uniform at any pitch. I think there was a setting in Massive's LFO section, it didn't involve automation. I can't figure out how to do this in MPowerSynth or Sound Factory. I'm guessing I'm missing a setting somewhere.

[Chandlerhimself]

I believe the wobble usually comes from the actual pitch of 2 OSC beating against each other when detuned and not an LFO. That is besides the point though if you'd rather use an LFO to control it. Anyway, just modulate the LFO rate using key tracking. In MSF set up the minimum and maximum rates and then edit the curve if you want more control. I hope that helps.

[musicman714]

Hey thanks for the response. I like to use the detuned oscillators on sub basses for some movement but from what I remember, the lfo route has a different sound. Yes! I do believe it was the keyboard tracking setting in Massive. Forgive my inexperience but I'm not seeing a keyboard tracking option in MPS. Is it named something else? Buried menu? It's funny you responded here, I was thinking about hitting you up on youtube but didn't want to bug ya.

[Hexspa]

I don't have MPS installed but I think you'd use the Key Scale per-voice modulator and attach that to the rate of an LFO. Unless I'm mistaken, it has to be a per-voice LFO because I see no way to attach it to a global modulator.

[Held]

You can find the key-tracking options under MIDI (in the toolbar) -> Notes. Then you need to select the modulator's frequency as the target parameter.

MPS doesn't have per-voice modulators, so I think you can only do this for monophonic sounds.

The LFOs in MSoundFactory have a "Follow Note" option which you can use. Or you can modulate the LFO's rate via a Key modulator.

[musicman714]

Great thanks! Got it working through Midi-Notes like you said in MPS.

[musicman714]

Ok update here. The LFO moves faster on higher notes, slower on lower notes but only through the midi notes themselves. The problem is that the pitch wheel from my controller changes pitch, but the LFO rate doesn't change with it. Is this possible in MPS? I hate to be picky but it's one of the primary techniques I use when making neuro bass. Record pitch bend automation of a long tone, then sample/re-sample with various effects.

[Held]

I haven't tried it, but your best bet is the "Follow note frequency" option in MSoundFactory LFOs. The documentation says it responds to glides, but it might also work with pitch bend.

[Hexspa]

You could theoretically assign your pitch wheel to LFO rate but, again, I don't have MPS installed so I'm not sure how or if it's possible. Probably is.

[Hexspa]

Ok update here. The LFO moves faster on higher notes, slower on lower notes but only through the midi notes themselves. The problem is that the pitch wheel from my controller changes pitch, but the LFO rate doesn't change with it. Is this possible in MPS? I hate to be picky but it's one of the primary techniques I use when making neuro bass. Record pitch bend automation of a long tone, then sample/re-sample with various effects.

I installed MPowerSynth just for uu (kvr has the creepiest emojis - so smug and hateful) Here's a patch where Multiparameter 1 is assigned to Modulator 1's LFO rate. While you're not going to win any sound design competitions with this patch, you can likely assign any midi controller to MP1 to make your Neuro whomps:

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Or did you mean something else?

[Hexspa]

You can key track the modulator rate as well as in this patch:

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You just need to hit the midi button in the toolbar to bring up the Midi Settings window wherein you select Modulators - Mod 1 - Frequency at which point your mod 1 frequency will follow your keys.

If, understandably, you don't want to do this every time, you can just set a default template with all your mappings preconfigured.