exactly, or just a pure saw wave in serum vs an analog one, the difference is night and dayvurt wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:21 pm you want to hear the difference between analogue and digital?
take your fgth relax first pressing 12" single and the cd of the tracks released more recently.
play them both on the same stereo system.
What is analog sound? Examples plz
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 5 Oct, 2020
- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
Absolutely, night and day! The analog saw sounds like a Beatles song, while the Serum saw sounds like somebody strangling a baby.j wazza wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:38 pmexactly, or just a pure saw wave in serum vs an analog one, the difference is night and dayvurt wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:21 pm you want to hear the difference between analogue and digital?
take your fgth relax first pressing 12" single and the cd of the tracks released more recently.
play them both on the same stereo system.
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 5 Oct, 2020
in the uk night and day is often used to mean 'obviously different'T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:03 pm Absolutely, night and day! The analog saw sounds like a Beatles song, while the Serum saw sounds like somebody strangling a baby.
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if youve actually listened to them side by side and you cant tell the difference then i cant help you
weird that you know what strangling a baby sounds like
- KVRAF
- 2726 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
^^ (no comment about strangling babies
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Similarly (as I've posted a couple of times before in this thread), I would choose as a clear example of an analog sound a vinyl recording of a 1960s Jamaican ska/reggae tune versus a YT-affected link of a part-digitally created song such as 'Drone Logic'.
We know that the 1960s vinyl pressing, and the 'Relax' 12-inch, and the analog saw wave, and the previous suggestion about a sound from an analogue synth from ANX, all come from analog equipment.
Therefore, it is simple for us to say that these factually have an 'analog sound' because we know how they were made.
And we know that "cd of the tracks released more recently" and the Serum saw tooth and the Youtube-linked "Drone Logic" clip are not analog.
We can factually say that they do no have an analog sound.
But if you were to listen to a track and you didn't know what instruments it contained, or what equipment it had been mixed through (and you weren't told these things) how confident would you be about saying and always being correct:
"This is an analog sound"?
That is the nub of this argument.
And therefore, does an "analog sound" have some intrinsic qualities that are always impossible for non-analog or hybrid-produced sounds to recreate?

Similarly (as I've posted a couple of times before in this thread), I would choose as a clear example of an analog sound a vinyl recording of a 1960s Jamaican ska/reggae tune versus a YT-affected link of a part-digitally created song such as 'Drone Logic'.
We know that the 1960s vinyl pressing, and the 'Relax' 12-inch, and the analog saw wave, and the previous suggestion about a sound from an analogue synth from ANX, all come from analog equipment.
Therefore, it is simple for us to say that these factually have an 'analog sound' because we know how they were made.
And we know that "cd of the tracks released more recently" and the Serum saw tooth and the Youtube-linked "Drone Logic" clip are not analog.
We can factually say that they do no have an analog sound.
But if you were to listen to a track and you didn't know what instruments it contained, or what equipment it had been mixed through (and you weren't told these things) how confident would you be about saying and always being correct:
"This is an analog sound"?
That is the nub of this argument.
And therefore, does an "analog sound" have some intrinsic qualities that are always impossible for non-analog or hybrid-produced sounds to recreate?
- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
my point was more, who gives a f**k if the tunes are awesome?dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:16 pm ^^ (no comment about strangling babies)
Similarly (as I've posted a couple of times before in this thread), I would choose as a clear example of an analog sound a vinyl recording of a 1960s Jamaican ska/reggae tune versus a YT-affected link of a part-digitally created song such as 'Drone Logic'.
We know that the 1960s vinyl pressing, and the 'Relax' 12-inch, and the analog saw wave, and the previous suggestion about a sound from an analogue synth from ANX, all come from analog equipment.
Therefore, it is simple for us to say that these factually have an 'analog sound' because we know how they were made.
And we know that "cd of the tracks released more recently" and the Serum saw tooth and the Youtube-linked "Drone Logic" clip are not analog.
We can factually say that they do no have an analog sound.
But if you were to listen to a track and you didn't know what instruments it contained, or what equipment it had been mixed through (and you weren't told these things) how confident would you be about saying and always being correct:
"This is an analog sound"?
That is the nub of this argument.
And therefore, does an "analog sound" have some intrinsic qualities that are always impossible for non-analog or hybrid-produced sounds to recreate?
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plus, my vinyl has a couple of scratches now
- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
Why? Are you a baby yourself?j wazza wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm i think the baby strangler joining the thread is the final straw for me, think im out of this thread now too
- KVRAF
- 2726 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
Yep, and tbf, both myself and j wazza have stated the same here - ultimately use whatever equipment you like. It's all good as long as it gets your track finished.
ps, sorry about your vinyl being scratched
I'll avoid telling you to forget about it and relax...
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 5 Oct, 2020
an analog saw wave vs serum saw with sustained notes, 100% confident in that, most real musical examples a lot lessdark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:16 pm if you were to listen to a track and you didn't know what instruments it contained, or what equipment it had been mixed through (and you weren't told these things) how confident would you be about saying and always being correct:
"This is an analog sound"?
That is the nub of this argument.
And therefore, does an "analog sound" have some intrinsic qualities that are always impossible for non-analog or hybrid-produced sounds to recreate?
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its not about whether its impossible to reproduce, you can do effects on photoshop to make something look like a film photo, that doesnt change the fact that film photos intrinsically (naturally) look like they do
i changed my mind about that, as did dark water apparently, but thanks belgian baby strangler ill beware of the mac vs pc thread (f**k apple though)T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:23 pmWhy? Are you a baby yourself?j wazza wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm i think the baby strangler joining the thread is the final straw for me, think im out of this thread now tooWhere are you heading now? A mac vs pc topic? Be careful, I've heard that cannibals lurk there.
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- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 31 Jan, 2003 from Ghent, Belgium
Does Franky Goes To Hollywood's management pay you for every time you mention that song?
- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
im very relaxed. bought the cd reissue, now i get all the mixes and the two tribes mixes, without having to keep standing up to flip them.dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:27 pm
Yep, and tbf, both myself and j wazza have stated the same here - ultimately use whatever equipment you like. It's all good as long as it gets your track finished.
ps, sorry about your vinyl being scratched
I'll avoid telling you to forget about it and relax...
- KVRAF
- 2726 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
Sadly not - but they did email me to say:T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:31 pmDoes Franky Goes To Hollywood's management pay you for every time you mention that song?![]()
"I'll protect you from the hooded claw,
Keep the vampires from your door"
Which was rather nice of them!
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- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 2726 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
^^
TMI.
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TMI.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
no, it just makes me...T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:31 pmDoes Franky Goes To Hollywood's management pay you for every time you mention that song?![]()
come!
- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
