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vurt wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:21 pm you want to hear the difference between analogue and digital?

take your fgth relax first pressing 12" single and the cd of the tracks released more recently.
play them both on the same stereo system.
exactly, or just a pure saw wave in serum vs an analog one, the difference is night and day

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j wazza wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:38 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:21 pm you want to hear the difference between analogue and digital?

take your fgth relax first pressing 12" single and the cd of the tracks released more recently.
play them both on the same stereo system.
exactly, or just a pure saw wave in serum vs an analog one, the difference is night and day
Absolutely, night and day! The analog saw sounds like a Beatles song, while the Serum saw sounds like somebody strangling a baby.
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T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:03 pm Absolutely, night and day! The analog saw sounds like a Beatles song, while the Serum saw sounds like somebody strangling a baby.
:lol:
in the uk night and day is often used to mean 'obviously different'

if youve actually listened to them side by side and you cant tell the difference then i cant help you

weird that you know what strangling a baby sounds like

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^^ (no comment about strangling babies :lol: )

Similarly (as I've posted a couple of times before in this thread), I would choose as a clear example of an analog sound a vinyl recording of a 1960s Jamaican ska/reggae tune versus a YT-affected link of a part-digitally created song such as 'Drone Logic'.

We know that the 1960s vinyl pressing, and the 'Relax' 12-inch, and the analog saw wave, and the previous suggestion about a sound from an analogue synth from ANX, all come from analog equipment.
Therefore, it is simple for us to say that these factually have an 'analog sound' because we know how they were made.

And we know that "cd of the tracks released more recently" and the Serum saw tooth and the Youtube-linked "Drone Logic" clip are not analog.
We can factually say that they do no have an analog sound.


But if you were to listen to a track and you didn't know what instruments it contained, or what equipment it had been mixed through (and you weren't told these things) how confident would you be about saying and always being correct:
"This is an analog sound"?

That is the nub of this argument.

And therefore, does an "analog sound" have some intrinsic qualities that are always impossible for non-analog or hybrid-produced sounds to recreate?

:)

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dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:16 pm ^^ (no comment about strangling babies :lol: )

Similarly (as I've posted a couple of times before in this thread), I would choose as a clear example of an analog sound a vinyl recording of a 1960s Jamaican ska/reggae tune versus a YT-affected link of a part-digitally created song such as 'Drone Logic'.

We know that the 1960s vinyl pressing, and the 'Relax' 12-inch, and the analog saw wave, and the previous suggestion about a sound from an analogue synth from ANX, all come from analog equipment.
Therefore, it is simple for us to say that these factually have an 'analog sound' because we know how they were made.

And we know that "cd of the tracks released more recently" and the Serum saw tooth and the Youtube-linked "Drone Logic" clip are not analog.
We can factually say that they do no have an analog sound.


But if you were to listen to a track and you didn't know what instruments it contained, or what equipment it had been mixed through (and you weren't told these things) how confident would you be about saying and always being correct:
"This is an analog sound"?

That is the nub of this argument.

And therefore, does an "analog sound" have some intrinsic qualities that are always impossible for non-analog or hybrid-produced sounds to recreate?

:)
my point was more, who gives a f**k if the tunes are awesome?

plus, my vinyl has a couple of scratches now :cry:
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j wazza wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm i think the baby strangler joining the thread is the final straw for me, think im out of this thread now too
Why? Are you a baby yourself? :D Where are you heading now? A mac vs pc topic? Be careful, I've heard that cannibals lurk there.

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vurt wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:22 pm my point was more, who gives a f**k if the tunes are awesome?

Yep, and tbf, both myself and j wazza have stated the same here - ultimately use whatever equipment you like. It's all good as long as it gets your track finished.


ps, sorry about your vinyl being scratched :(
I'll avoid telling you to forget about it and relax...

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dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:16 pm if you were to listen to a track and you didn't know what instruments it contained, or what equipment it had been mixed through (and you weren't told these things) how confident would you be about saying and always being correct:
"This is an analog sound"?

That is the nub of this argument.

And therefore, does an "analog sound" have some intrinsic qualities that are always impossible for non-analog or hybrid-produced sounds to recreate?

:)
an analog saw wave vs serum saw with sustained notes, 100% confident in that, most real musical examples a lot less

its not about whether its impossible to reproduce, you can do effects on photoshop to make something look like a film photo, that doesnt change the fact that film photos intrinsically (naturally) look like they do
T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:23 pm
j wazza wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:09 pm i think the baby strangler joining the thread is the final straw for me, think im out of this thread now too
Why? Are you a baby yourself? :D Where are you heading now? A mac vs pc topic? Be careful, I've heard that cannibals lurk there.
i changed my mind about that, as did dark water apparently, but thanks belgian baby strangler ill beware of the mac vs pc thread (f**k apple though)
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dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:27 pm I'll avoid telling you to forget about it and relax...
Does Franky Goes To Hollywood's management pay you for every time you mention that song? :hihi:

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dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:27 pm
vurt wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:22 pm my point was more, who gives a f**k if the tunes are awesome?

Yep, and tbf, both myself and j wazza have stated the same here - ultimately use whatever equipment you like. It's all good as long as it gets your track finished.


ps, sorry about your vinyl being scratched :(
I'll avoid telling you to forget about it and relax...
im very relaxed. bought the cd reissue, now i get all the mixes and the two tribes mixes, without having to keep standing up to flip them. :D
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T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:31 pm
dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:27 pm I'll avoid telling you to forget about it and relax...
Does Franky Goes To Hollywood's management pay you for every time you mention that song? :hihi:
Sadly not - but they did email me to say:

"I'll protect you from the hooded claw,
Keep the vampires from your door"

Which was rather nice of them!
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f**k.
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^^

TMI.

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T-CM11 wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:31 pm
dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:27 pm I'll avoid telling you to forget about it and relax...
Does Franky Goes To Hollywood's management pay you for every time you mention that song? :hihi:
no, it just makes me...



come!
:ud:

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dark water wrote: Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:35 pm ^^

TMI.

.

fixed it now.
:ud:

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