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yeah some companies will be able to sit on reserves, some sadly won't.
theres no one size fits all.

it's not going to be great for anyone for a while, individuals rather than companies, as fuel and food bills are set to increase even further, so we are all going to have less spare cash lay around for "treats".
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its simple...
low price : everybody jumps on it, impulse buys.
high price : thinking and or saving up with the risk other deals come by.

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if not mistaken gibson standards are up $200
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LFO8 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:59 am
vurt wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:08 pm seriously, around 25 quid a week i used to spend, now its 47 :x wtf :x
25 quid per week on what?
previous post, "he's in for a shock when he visits the supermarket"

my food shop for the week.
not including milk/bread that i get when i need from the corner shop.

but the list is exactly the same and has almost doubled in the past couple of months

it's relevant, because it means we have less to spend, but companies need to pay staff more.
so it will in turn effect the prices of things including software.
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vurt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:21 pm yeah some companies will be able to sit on reserves, some sadly won't.
theres no one size fits all.

it's not going to be great for anyone for a while, individuals rather than companies, as fuel and food bills are set to increase even further, so we are all going to have less spare cash lay around for "treats".
Yeah, it's a painful time.

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Thankfully, I've already bought pretty much everything essential I could ever want. I just want to get some of the Valhalla stuff plus FabFilter Pro-MB and I'm good here.

The things are going to turn out a lot trickier in the case of hardware though.

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crickey13 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 am Thankfully, I've already bought pretty much everything essential I could ever want. I just want to get some of the Valhalla stuff plus FabFilter Pro-MB and I'm good here.

The things are going to turn out a lot trickier in the case of hardware though.
Yeah I am pretty much sorted, only UVI Falcon to go. But that will have to wait.
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vurt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:44 pm
LFO8 wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 7:59 am
vurt wrote: Sat Apr 23, 2022 9:08 pm seriously, around 25 quid a week i used to spend, now its 47 :x wtf :x
25 quid per week on what?
previous post, "he's in for a shock when he visits the supermarket"

my food shop for the week.
not including milk/bread that i get when i need from the corner shop.

but the list is exactly the same and has almost doubled in the past couple of months

it's relevant, because it means we have less to spend, but companies need to pay staff more.
so it will in turn effect the prices of things including software.
Aha thanks for clarifying. But holy moly.. you got by on 25 quid per week on groceries?!?

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If anything, software seems to keep getting cheaper. The market is completely saturated with $29 plugins that supposedly were somehow worth $299 at some point. Just last week I got several PA plugins worth hundreds completely free. Then this week I got another email from them saying I can buy any 2 plugins for $49. IK Multimedia are running a Syntronik group buy where you'll probably be able to get the equivalent of the entire Syntronik 2 package (€199+) for €50. Arturia just had a massive sale on their V-Collection. Just check any of the audio plugin FB groups or subreddits, there are so many deals you can't even keep up.

It makes sense. Since there's no manufacturing, raw materials, components, transportation or storing needed, selling 10 copies for $30 each is essentially the same as selling 1 copy for $300.
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AdvancedFollower wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:54 am If anything, software seems to keep getting cheaper. The market is completely saturated with $29 plugins that supposedly were somehow worth $299 at some point. Just last week I got several PA plugins worth hundreds completely free. Then this week I got another email from them saying I can buy any 2 plugins for $49. IK Multimedia are running a Syntronik group buy where you'll probably be able to get the equivalent of the entire Syntronik 2 package (€199+) for €50. Arturia just had a massive sale on their V-Collection. Just check any of the audio plugin FB groups or subreddits, there are so many deals you can't even keep up.

It makes sense. Since there's no manufacturing, raw materials, components, transportation or storing needed, selling 10 copies for $30 each is essentially the same as selling 1 copy for $300.
It's also weirdly self-defeating. In the hardware days you had to save money to grow your studio. There were no workarounds and you couldn't reuse your hardware other than if you captured its output to tape. A lot of electronic music was mixed live to 2-track so that wasn't an option.

In the early days of plugins you had to make similar choices because they were priced close to hardware. Now they're so cheap that you don't have to make many choices anymore but you end up with so much more than you need that at some point it's harder to justify even a good deal.

So because they're so cheap, people just reach their own personal saturation level more quickly and then you can't sell them any more. Along the way, you didn't earn very much, so the only thing that you can do it to try and keep hyping your shit up as the second coming.

And we wonder why subscriptions are so appealing to companies.

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LFO8 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:22 am But holy moly.. you got by on 25 quid per week on groceries?!?
He doesn't need much, only a computer and KVR. :lol:
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i hate waste, so buy the minimum necessary to last.
it's not like i don't eat food i enjoy, just not much of it :hihi:
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AdvancedFollower wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:54 amIt makes sense. Since there's no manufacturing, raw materials, components, transportation or storing needed, selling 10 copies for $30 each is essentially the same as selling 1 copy for $300.
This has always been true for software - in theory. But here’s the secret - 10 customers who have only bought it because it is cheap is likely to be 20x the tech support headaches - and support costs time and money.

That said, some companies clearly find selling it cheap works for them. Every company has to find that balance with their customers I guess.

With pockets squeezed, it might indeed take more aggressive sales tactics to get people to part with cash, which means developers might take a hit both on incomes and support time.
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noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:03 pm With pockets squeezed, it might indeed take more aggressive sales tactics to get people to part with cash, which means developers might take a hit both on incomes and support time.
Which is just another way of saying that plugin vendors can't really just increase prices owing to inflation. Plugins are not bread and milk. We can easily get by on what we have for the time being.

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ghettosynth wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:09 pm
noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:03 pm With pockets squeezed, it might indeed take more aggressive sales tactics to get people to part with cash, which means developers might take a hit both on incomes and support time.
Which is just another way of saying that plugin vendors can't really just increase prices owing to inflation. Plugins are not bread and milk. We can easily get by on what we have for the time being.
Exactly. It’s going to be pretty tough out there.
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