Prices set to increase ?
- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yeah some companies will be able to sit on reserves, some sadly won't.
theres no one size fits all.
it's not going to be great for anyone for a while, individuals rather than companies, as fuel and food bills are set to increase even further, so we are all going to have less spare cash lay around for "treats".
theres no one size fits all.
it's not going to be great for anyone for a while, individuals rather than companies, as fuel and food bills are set to increase even further, so we are all going to have less spare cash lay around for "treats".
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- KVRian
- 944 posts since 13 Oct, 2006
its simple...
low price : everybody jumps on it, impulse buys.
high price : thinking and or saving up with the risk other deals come by.
low price : everybody jumps on it, impulse buys.
high price : thinking and or saving up with the risk other deals come by.
- KVRian
- 1075 posts since 26 Nov, 2007
if not mistaken gibson standards are up $200
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
previous post, "he's in for a shock when he visits the supermarket"
my food shop for the week.
not including milk/bread that i get when i need from the corner shop.
but the list is exactly the same and has almost doubled in the past couple of months
it's relevant, because it means we have less to spend, but companies need to pay staff more.
so it will in turn effect the prices of things including software.
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- Banned
- 109 posts since 1 Mar, 2021
Yeah, it's a painful time.vurt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:21 pm yeah some companies will be able to sit on reserves, some sadly won't.
theres no one size fits all.
it's not going to be great for anyone for a while, individuals rather than companies, as fuel and food bills are set to increase even further, so we are all going to have less spare cash lay around for "treats".
- KVRian
- 823 posts since 27 Aug, 2020
Thankfully, I've already bought pretty much everything essential I could ever want. I just want to get some of the Valhalla stuff plus FabFilter Pro-MB and I'm good here.
The things are going to turn out a lot trickier in the case of hardware though.
The things are going to turn out a lot trickier in the case of hardware though.
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- 4491 posts since 8 Jul, 2008 from UK
Yeah I am pretty much sorted, only UVI Falcon to go. But that will have to wait.crickey13 wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:07 am Thankfully, I've already bought pretty much everything essential I could ever want. I just want to get some of the Valhalla stuff plus FabFilter Pro-MB and I'm good here.
The things are going to turn out a lot trickier in the case of hardware though.
Don't trust those with words of weakness, they are the most aggressive
- KVRian
- 1172 posts since 21 Jul, 2012
Aha thanks for clarifying. But holy moly.. you got by on 25 quid per week on groceries?!?vurt wrote: Sun Apr 24, 2022 5:44 pmprevious post, "he's in for a shock when he visits the supermarket"
my food shop for the week.
not including milk/bread that i get when i need from the corner shop.
but the list is exactly the same and has almost doubled in the past couple of months
it's relevant, because it means we have less to spend, but companies need to pay staff more.
so it will in turn effect the prices of things including software.
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- KVRian
- 1342 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
If anything, software seems to keep getting cheaper. The market is completely saturated with $29 plugins that supposedly were somehow worth $299 at some point. Just last week I got several PA plugins worth hundreds completely free. Then this week I got another email from them saying I can buy any 2 plugins for $49. IK Multimedia are running a Syntronik group buy where you'll probably be able to get the equivalent of the entire Syntronik 2 package (€199+) for €50. Arturia just had a massive sale on their V-Collection. Just check any of the audio plugin FB groups or subreddits, there are so many deals you can't even keep up.
It makes sense. Since there's no manufacturing, raw materials, components, transportation or storing needed, selling 10 copies for $30 each is essentially the same as selling 1 copy for $300.
It makes sense. Since there's no manufacturing, raw materials, components, transportation or storing needed, selling 10 copies for $30 each is essentially the same as selling 1 copy for $300.
Take a single oscillator, producing a drone. Send it to the wave shaper, altering the tone.
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
This can be a triangle, Sawtooth or a square. Modulate the pulse width, nobody will care
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- KVRAF
- 16744 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
It's also weirdly self-defeating. In the hardware days you had to save money to grow your studio. There were no workarounds and you couldn't reuse your hardware other than if you captured its output to tape. A lot of electronic music was mixed live to 2-track so that wasn't an option.AdvancedFollower wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:54 am If anything, software seems to keep getting cheaper. The market is completely saturated with $29 plugins that supposedly were somehow worth $299 at some point. Just last week I got several PA plugins worth hundreds completely free. Then this week I got another email from them saying I can buy any 2 plugins for $49. IK Multimedia are running a Syntronik group buy where you'll probably be able to get the equivalent of the entire Syntronik 2 package (€199+) for €50. Arturia just had a massive sale on their V-Collection. Just check any of the audio plugin FB groups or subreddits, there are so many deals you can't even keep up.
It makes sense. Since there's no manufacturing, raw materials, components, transportation or storing needed, selling 10 copies for $30 each is essentially the same as selling 1 copy for $300.
In the early days of plugins you had to make similar choices because they were priced close to hardware. Now they're so cheap that you don't have to make many choices anymore but you end up with so much more than you need that at some point it's harder to justify even a good deal.
So because they're so cheap, people just reach their own personal saturation level more quickly and then you can't sell them any more. Along the way, you didn't earn very much, so the only thing that you can do it to try and keep hyping your shit up as the second coming.
And we wonder why subscriptions are so appealing to companies.
- KVRAF
- 1841 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland
He doesn't need much, only a computer and KVR.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i hate waste, so buy the minimum necessary to last.
it's not like i don't eat food i enjoy, just not much of it
it's not like i don't eat food i enjoy, just not much of it
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- KVRAF
- 5914 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
This has always been true for software - in theory. But here’s the secret - 10 customers who have only bought it because it is cheap is likely to be 20x the tech support headaches - and support costs time and money.AdvancedFollower wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:54 amIt makes sense. Since there's no manufacturing, raw materials, components, transportation or storing needed, selling 10 copies for $30 each is essentially the same as selling 1 copy for $300.
That said, some companies clearly find selling it cheap works for them. Every company has to find that balance with their customers I guess.
With pockets squeezed, it might indeed take more aggressive sales tactics to get people to part with cash, which means developers might take a hit both on incomes and support time.
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- KVRAF
- 16744 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
Which is just another way of saying that plugin vendors can't really just increase prices owing to inflation. Plugins are not bread and milk. We can easily get by on what we have for the time being.noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:03 pm With pockets squeezed, it might indeed take more aggressive sales tactics to get people to part with cash, which means developers might take a hit both on incomes and support time.
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- KVRAF
- 5914 posts since 25 Jan, 2007
Exactly. It’s going to be pretty tough out there.ghettosynth wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:09 pmWhich is just another way of saying that plugin vendors can't really just increase prices owing to inflation. Plugins are not bread and milk. We can easily get by on what we have for the time being.noiseboyuk wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:03 pm With pockets squeezed, it might indeed take more aggressive sales tactics to get people to part with cash, which means developers might take a hit both on incomes and support time.
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