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Good move from pa , their new fx is 29$ , the same price of the sub forever 29.
Dark music for dark lover

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Still waiting for the PPG synths to be rereleased

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Prototype_human wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:14 pm Good move from pa , their new fx is 29$ , the same price of the sub forever 29.
$29.99 + $1.00 = about $31, so not quite $29 but close.
A bit fried in the higher freqs

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In Europe we have VAT , so the price is more 35$..i will not complain to have plugin for a such low price , 36$ for a plugin like sculpt is a very good price.
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Dark music for dark lover

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Prototype_human wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:26 pm In Europe we have VAT , so the price is more 35$
Yeah, this is true, unfortunately. Still, if they ever release something exciting, it's a more realistic price than the dumb $399 they usual put on their new plugins.
A bit fried in the higher freqs

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cprompt wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:29 pm
Prototype_human wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:26 pm In Europe we have VAT , so the price is more 35$
Yeah, this is true, unfortunately. Still, if they ever release something exciting, it's a more realistic price than the dumb $399 they usual put on their new plugins.
Pretty good price IMO.
Everything is abordable now , i remember when i was dreaming of Renaissance MAXX ,it was too high prices for me , now it is less expensive and i have it...
The same for Elysia plugins.
Everybody can have it...
This new plugin LISA seems to be interesting...i will give it a try and maybe give them 29 ;)
Dark music for dark lover

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Prototype_human wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:14 pm Good move from pa , their new fx is 29$ , the same price of the sub forever 29.
cprompt wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:25 pm
Prototype_human wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:14 pm Good move from pa , their new fx is 29$ , the same price of the sub forever 29.
$29.99 + $1.00 = about $31, so not quite $29 but close.
If you're talking about the new Lisa EQ, I think one of us is reading something incorrectly.

It's $29 per month plus a dollar extra for the Lisa:

"Individual plugin licenses are still available, starting at $129.99 with voucher code LISA12999"

However if I'm reading correctly "cancel any time" so I suppose you could pay for one month at $29.99, add in the dollar then cancel the subscription?

"Get this brand new plugin at just $30.99 by joining FOREVER 29. Pay a monthly fee of just $29.99 and add any one (1) plugin to your collection every month, at just $1. Of course, you can cancel any time".

In the end "Forever $29" is just a way to sugarcoat a subscription service but at least for a buck more you get to keep something in perpetuity. :shrug:
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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Soundwide Intro Bundle????
If you look at the Plugin Alliance E-mail for the May voucher, down towards the bottom there is a broken link for an offer 'coming soon'. 15 plugins for $49.99, regularly $2,506.
Does anybody have any info on this yet?

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Teksonik wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:54 pm
Prototype_human wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:14 pm Good move from pa , their new fx is 29$ , the same price of the sub forever 29.
cprompt wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:25 pm
Prototype_human wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:14 pm Good move from pa , their new fx is 29$ , the same price of the sub forever 29.
$29.99 + $1.00 = about $31, so not quite $29 but close.
If you're talking about the new Lisa EQ, I think one of us is reading something incorrectly.

It's $29 per month plus a dollar extra for the Lisa:

"Individual plugin licenses are still available, starting at $129.99 with voucher code LISA12999"

However if I'm reading correctly "cancel any time" so I suppose you could pay for one month at $29.99, add in the dollar then cancel the subscription?

"Get this brand new plugin at just $30.99 by joining FOREVER 29. Pay a monthly fee of just $29.99 and add any one (1) plugin to your collection every month, at just $1. Of course, you can cancel any time".

In the end "Forever $29" is just a way to sugarcoat a subscription service but at least for a buck more you get to keep something in perpetuity. :shrug:
It says right in what you quoted that it's $29.99, not $29. They send you a voucher to get a plugin for $1.

In case that's not clear enough:

"Monthly Fee: $29.99 (charged monthly)
Add ANY 1 PA Plugin to your collection for just $1/each!"

(from the email)

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But you can cancel the 29$ sub when you purchased your plugin for 1$
Dark music for dark lover

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Teksonik wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:54 pm If you're talking about the new Lisa EQ, I think one of us is reading something incorrectly.
Any misunderstanding is due to PA's convoluted and complex new pricing system, that, although called a subscription, is anything but. Pay $29.99, get a $1 voucher, buy any plugin with that voucher, cancel the subscription. That is not a subscription, that is simply buying a $1 voucher for $29.99. Madness.
Teksonik wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:54 pmHowever if I'm reading correctly "cancel any time" so I suppose you could pay for one month at $29.99, add in the dollar then cancel the subscription?
Yes, and they actively encourage this. Why? Because their new owner measures success by sales of subscriptions rather than plugins. The more subs they sell, the better their books look. The fact that 99% of subscribers will cancel the moment they get the $1 voucher is unimportant, they still sold those subscriptions. And they'll sell more next month too, and so on.
A bit fried in the higher freqs

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aMUSEd wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:15 pm Still waiting for the PPG synths to be rereleased
Absolutely! :tu:

The man behind PA is a genius - and it’s probably important in the context of this discussion that in addition to being on top/in the thick of the current plugin market trends, Dirk suffered severe loss from a Studio flood (he has a brick & mortar business - details online) likely reshaping his long-term business plan.

F29 is seismic: I can get whatever PA currently offers for that. I can get several F29 subs and buy whatever I want; then dump the subs. And PA’s still adding new plugins to their catalog! Bundle subs are still added to w/new content w/o added fees; voucher codes still work but HAVE just been downgraded in their valuation - looks like how they’re expected to be used will change.

Interesting times for PA

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goldenanalog wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 4:27 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:15 pm Still waiting for the PPG synths to be rereleased
Absolutely! :tu:

The man behind PA is a genius - and it’s probably important in the context of this discussion that in addition to being on top/in the thick of the current plugin market trends, Dirk suffered severe loss from a Studio flood (he has a brick & mortar business - details online) likely reshaping his long-term business plan.

F29 is seismic: I can get whatever PA currently offers for that. I can get several F29 subs and buy whatever I want; then dump the subs. And PA’s still adding new plugins to their catalog! Bundle subs are still added to w/new content w/o added fees; voucher codes still work but HAVE just been downgraded in their valuation - looks like how they’re expected to be used will change.

Interesting times for PA
I asked PA about PPG a couple weeks ago and got this:
Hi Samuel,

There is no more support from PPG; besides that, their installation server is currently available.

We do not have a set date yet when we will be releasing PPG licenses on our platform, however, we will be notifying PPG´s previous customers when we do.

How to install PPG licenses on your phone workaround- https://www.howtogeek.com/398923/how-to ... app-store/

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goldenanalog wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 4:27 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Mon May 02, 2022 3:15 pm Still waiting for the PPG synths to be rereleased
Absolutely! :tu:

The man behind PA is a genius - and it’s probably important in the context of this discussion that in addition to being on top/in the thick of the current plugin market trends, Dirk suffered severe loss from a Studio flood (he has a brick & mortar business - details online) likely reshaping his long-term business plan.

F29 is seismic: I can get whatever PA currently offers for that. I can get several F29 subs and buy whatever I want; then dump the subs. And PA’s still adding new plugins to their catalog! Bundle subs are still added to w/new content w/o added fees; voucher codes still work but HAVE just been downgraded in their valuation - looks like how they’re expected to be used will change.

Interesting times for PA
The Kool-aid still works even after so many years... amazing.
“In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.”

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