Its a very interesting parallel with NI.. 10 year ago I was anxious for new NI products and meh about Arturia, now it's quite the contrary. In the last 4 or 5 years Arturia turned the game.LoveEnigma18 wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:34 pm Software development at Arturia is crazy fast. They are consistently putting out great updates and new instruments since at least last few years. Definitely an inspiration for other software companies. While I am not sure if I need the full V Collection and Analog Lab V is mostly sufficient for me, I can't appreciate their work and generosity enough.
Arturia V Collection 9. Predictions?
- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
- 18340 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
NI is too busy focusing on bad 3d graphics for their sample Maschine expansions to have the time to work on plugins.waltercruz wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:54 pmIts a very interesting parallel with NI.. 10 year ago I was anxious for new NI products and meh about Arturia, now it's quite the contrary. In the last 4 or 5 years Arturia turned the game.LoveEnigma18 wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:34 pm Software development at Arturia is crazy fast. They are consistently putting out great updates and new instruments since at least last few years. Definitely an inspiration for other software companies. While I am not sure if I need the full V Collection and Analog Lab V is mostly sufficient for me, I can't appreciate their work and generosity enough.
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- KVRAF
- 12438 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Good point! I stand corrected. I was specifically thinking of the Keylab series when I said that. I think they have some integration with Analog Lab, but they seem to stick to the standard 8 pads, 8 faders, 8 knobs type of control scheme that everyone else does. I should've been more specific in my criticism.dayjob wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:18 pmi disagree. the beatstep pro and key step pro etc are innovative and were first (?) to do that kind of thing and integrate sequencing with cv/gate and midi in a very accessible way. they've been out for a while but keep getting improved upon. as for the other midi controllers i have no experience w/them but seems like they're consistent w/what's happening in that market.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:55 pm
Their controllers seem kind of "run of the mill" to me, very "me too" type of products, but they're doing innovative stuff with hardware synthesis.
i've met the reps in my area and like them. found them knowledgable and to be nice people etc. they're making stuff they believe in and are passionate about. seemed to me that everyone is 'on board' w/what the company is going.
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- KVRian
- 1190 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Arturia is still Arturia and not owned by a parent company. Once a company gets acquired, without proper transitioning, it can hobble how a company operates. Not to mention the approval process for ideas can slow down. Arturia seems to have a good pace, unlike companies that have already been acquired who tend to focus on preset packs for existing products rather than innovations.
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- KVRAF
- 11994 posts since 12 May, 2008
Man, Arturia synths mess with my mind. I've been trying the Synthi and I'm like yeah actually this is pretty gnarly, not bad. And then I went to try the jup-8 demo again because I remember being pretty impressed demoing it when it came out, but now I'm trying the presets wondering what I saw in it before. Maybe because I got used to the TAL J-8, but the Arturia Jupiter just doesn't impress me or seem to be as much of an improvement over the original as I remember. So I really don't know what to expect with the new ones!
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- KVRAF
- 1701 posts since 25 Jul, 2009
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:55 pm .....
Their controllers seem kind of "run of the mill" to me, very "me too" type of products, but they're doing innovative stuff with hardware synthesis.
Several years back I got a Keylab 49, because after some research I found it was one of the very few controllers that sends release velocity, which is very important to me.
The aftertouch response is exactly how I like it too.
Arturia would be the first one I'd consider if I needed another keyboard controller.
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- KVRAF
- 9144 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Yes I agree. I have the same keyboard (mk ii) for several years now and it is a pleasure to play with. I play the MODX with the keylab keys as they have better velocity response and that means better dynamics. I would replace it with the same if something happens to it, but I believe it can go strong for another 10 years! Very good build qualityfelis wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 10:58 pmFunkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 5:55 pm .....
Their controllers seem kind of "run of the mill" to me, very "me too" type of products, but they're doing innovative stuff with hardware synthesis.
Several years back I got a Keylab 49, because after some research I found it was one of the very few controllers that sends release velocity, which is very important to me.
The aftertouch response is exactly how I like it too.
Arturia would be the first one I'd consider if I needed another keyboard controller.
Using: Cubase Pro 15, Reason 13, Tascam US-4x4HR, MODX6, DM12D, LaunchKey 49, Yamaha guitar(Pacifica 612v) and bass (BB234) and some virtual instruments and synths.
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- 18340 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Close, but no cigar.bonch wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 4:56 pmU-he Diva has MS-20 modules.zerocrossing wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 4:27 amTAL and U-He don’t do a MS20, CS-80 or Prophet VS emulation.PsychicVST wrote: Sun May 08, 2022 5:42 pm The only thing that I’m interested in is the new Augmented Voices. I have all the Arturia software and hardly use any of their VA instruments anymore as I tend to reach for Uhe or TAL first. If they charge me more than $99 to update I’ll wait for a better deal or the next collection.
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- KVRian
- 1190 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny
Arturias jupiter is close to the J8, but has a little more sheen to it, while the J8 sounds a little more buttery. I take nothing away from the Arturia version, it sounds awesome, has sick effects, and the UI is killer. The J8 has a really smooth sound, and I prefer it over the Arturia version, although I reach for the Arturia if I want bad ass effects.
- KVRAF
- 6293 posts since 12 Jan, 2018
While Arturia synths may not be close to 100% in terms of emulation, I think the more you compare the more you will find differences and the more you will get disappointed. So, to avoid that best would be to stick to the emulation you like the most.
What I like to think about Arturia is:
lots of diverse and great quality synths (may not be 100% accurate)
additional features and effects
awesome looking and resizable GUIs
tons of presets
simple and easy to use software installer/updater and MIDI Control Center
value for money
free updates
nice and helpful support staff
excellent workflow and experience
generous loyalty offers
overall an ecosystem that's worth putting trust in
I don't have V Collection now, but I do have KeyLab MK II (comes with Analog Lab 4/V and Piano V) and Pigments and a couple of recent freebies.
Looking forward to V Collection 9 today though! Because with Arturia, everyone gets something (even without spending a single cent). Excited to see what Analog Lab V will get.
What I like to think about Arturia is:
lots of diverse and great quality synths (may not be 100% accurate)
additional features and effects
awesome looking and resizable GUIs
tons of presets
simple and easy to use software installer/updater and MIDI Control Center
value for money
free updates
nice and helpful support staff
excellent workflow and experience
generous loyalty offers
overall an ecosystem that's worth putting trust in
I don't have V Collection now, but I do have KeyLab MK II (comes with Analog Lab 4/V and Piano V) and Pigments and a couple of recent freebies.
Looking forward to V Collection 9 today though! Because with Arturia, everyone gets something (even without spending a single cent). Excited to see what Analog Lab V will get.
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- KVRAF
- 2427 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
FWIW I think Arturia's Voice Dispersion is a lot easier to use / get musical results with than J-8, where you have to open the Voice panel and manually tweak every parameter you want to offset. Sure, it's the same exact idea and it does work; the Arturia approach is just a much quicker route, since it's one set of controls for all parameters, as opposed to needing to modify one set of controls for every parameter for every voice itself.vertibration wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 1:00 am Arturias jupiter is close to the J8, but has a little more sheen to it, while the J8 sounds a little more buttery. I take nothing away from the Arturia version, it sounds awesome, has sick effects, and the UI is killer. The J8 has a really smooth sound, and I prefer it over the Arturia version, although I reach for the Arturia if I want bad ass effects.
But as you say, both are great instruments.
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- KVRist
- 220 posts since 16 Dec, 2006
I see. I've never had the pleasure of playing a real J8. Did have a 106 though. After demoing them both for weeks I thought they both sounded pretty good so I went with value for money as Arturia had a 50% off sale (although I thought it included the SQ80vertibration wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 12:35 pmYeskae wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 6:52 amHow? More authentic compared to a real J8 you have tested against?
- KVRAF
- 11363 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo
And a PolyVox!!!!groovesys wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 4:02 pm I'd love to see this:
Fairlight III and updated factory library
Emulator II update w/all the factory libraries. Easier import of native EII samples.
Voyetra 8
Kawai K5
Elka Synthex
Akai AX-60 and/or AX-80
Korg DW-8000
This list is epic!
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- 7640 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
I thought the J-8 sounded thin by comparison.vertibration wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 1:00 am Arturias jupiter is close to the J8, but has a little more sheen to it, while the J8 sounds a little more buttery. I take nothing away from the Arturia version, it sounds awesome, has sick effects, and the UI is killer. The J8 has a really smooth sound, and I prefer it over the Arturia version, although I reach for the Arturia if I want bad ass effects.
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- KVRian
- 732 posts since 9 Apr, 2005 from Japan
Yeah, I feel the same way about OB-Xa V vs. Obsession. Both sound great, but Arturia's Voice Dispersion panel makes it much quicker and easier to dial in per-voice variance. Obsession does have a "Randomize Voice Adjustments" command, but it affects all the settings and you have no control over the depth. They both sound great, of course. I just find it easier to get a good result with OB-Xa V.mholloway wrote: Tue May 10, 2022 4:49 am FWIW I think Arturia's Voice Dispersion is a lot easier to use / get musical results with than J-8, where you have to open the Voice panel and manually tweak every parameter you want to offset. Sure, it's the same exact idea and it does work; the Arturia approach is just a much quicker route, since it's one set of controls for all parameters, as opposed to needing to modify one set of controls for every parameter for every voice itself.
Voice Dispersion will be a very welcome addition to CS-80 V.
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