Bitwig in Flatpak

[ReleaseCandidate]

IMHO, it's OK. You have the host filesystem allowed to Bitwig.

https://github.com/flathub/com.bitwig.B ... o.yaml#L23

'--filesystem=host' is not enough to get access to most paths of a system (actually to anything 'interesting'). For example access to '/usr' is forbidden, that's where the plugins are installed to (as default).

https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sand ... tem-access

[Renich]

'--filesystem=host' is not enough to get access to most paths of a system (actually to anything 'interesting'). For example access to '/usr' is forbidden, that's where the plugins are installed to (as default).

https://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sand ... tem-access

Ah, you're right. They're blacklisted even. Maybe you can add them at runtime, if you need any. If this works, you can edit your launcher so that it mounts them everytime. It seems to be as easy as passing more --filesystem=/path/to/x flags.

It's not user-friendly, but it might work.

[Beerhunter]

hey guys,
do you know how i can use my windows vsts with wine an yabridge having Bitwig installed via Flatpak?

It seems like bitwig can´t see the vst, maybe i did something wrong.

Thanks

[Renich]

I wouldn't know. Never tried that.

You could always try using:

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flatpak run --filesystem=/path/to/your/plugins

And see if that works. What

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--filesystem=

does is expose that part of your filesystem to the flatpak.

It's usually better, though, to just put them somewhere within $HOME. Some paths are off-limits to flatpak.

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/var/lib64

for example.

In my case, I tried setting up GSnap (linux vst) and put it within

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/home/renich/Downloads/VST

and told Bitwig Studio about it (setup > locations) and it worked fine.

[Beerhunter]

i haven´t installed wine via flatpak, instead it´s a deb file and therefore my system is a mixture.
Bitwig ist installed via flatpak but most of the vstś are linux native vst or windows vst with wine and yabridge.

so in my case i want to run melodyne which is windows and therefore needs wine, and bitwig running as a flatpak..

[Renich]

Right. Wine shouldn't be installed via flatpak.

I think I heard of some wine project to get windows VST software running on linux.

Here's the first thing that Google showed me: https://madskjeldgaard.dk/posts/improve ... -wine-tkg/

And another one that looks promising: https://github.com/osxmidi/LinVst

[Renich]

Ah, look. This one mentions Bitwig: https://github.com/robbert-vdh/yabridge

[audiojunkie]

I wouldn't know. Never tried that.

You could always try using:

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flatpak run --filesystem=/path/to/your/plugins

And see if that works. What

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--filesystem=

does is expose that part of your filesystem to the flatpak.

It's usually better, though, to just put them somewhere within $HOME. Some paths are off-limits to flatpak.

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/var/lib64

for example.

In my case, I tried setting up GSnap (linux vst) and put it within

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/home/renich/Downloads/VST

and told Bitwig Studio about it (setup > locations) and it worked fine.

Great information!!! So is there a documented FAQ for this somewhere that you are aware of? I'd like to find a published Flatpak solution.

I was going to suggest trying "Flatseal" to open all permissions for the host. Do you know if that helps get around the issue without workarounds? That may be another solution. I use Reaper which doesn't come as a Flatpak, but I've been watching the Flatpak technology with great interest to see how things may (or may not) work with plugins (both with or without flatpak technology).

Thanks for confirming that this can work!!

Edit: I did some searching after reading this and found the following document to be very useful:

https://www.bitwig.com/support/technica ... latpak-52/

In particular, I found the following very interesting:

We've pre-configured Bitwig Studio to run with suitable permissions. However, should you wish to adjust permissions, you can use Flatseal here...

Working With VST Plug-ins and Flatpak
We recommend installing any VST plug-ins using Flatpak. VST plug-ins that cannot be installed via Flatpak should be installed in a folder that is reachable by Bitwig Studio, like your home directory. Be aware that anything installed in /usr/lib won’t be available to Bitwig Studio.

[Beerhunter]

i will try again, but i think i sticked to the guide on the bitwig page pretty close, but maybe i am wrong