Sorry Guys for for a question that might be stupid.
I am about to start to use Mulab 9 instead of mulab 8 and i just hit a mine.
Probably its just me but i have to ask the question anyway....
Ok, I want to use some external effects (vocoder, delay and my favourite dist pedal).
I am pretty used to use the modular area in mulab 8 to route a track or a rack directly to, for example an external HW vocoder and in to a new rack with other effects. It was pretty straightforward.
How do i do this in mulab 9?
I dont see a clear way to do this.
Regards
Rob
Choose audio input in mulab 9 for external effects and synths?
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- KVRist
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
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- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
Thats strange...
I used Asio4all for the first time and every input/output is activated in Mulabs sound settings.
For example, i want to route Rack 1 to vocoder in instead of the master.
I want the Vocoder out routed to the top of rack 2.
I dont see the same option for this in 9 that i would have in mulab 8.
I will try again with my soundcards ASIO drivers and see if there will be different.
I used Asio4all for the first time and every input/output is activated in Mulabs sound settings.
For example, i want to route Rack 1 to vocoder in instead of the master.
I want the Vocoder out routed to the top of rack 2.
I dont see the same option for this in 9 that i would have in mulab 8.
I will try again with my soundcards ASIO drivers and see if there will be different.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
Nope, it is not working as before.
In mulab 8 i choose add module (audio input and audio output) and right click on the module and there is a edit option in the pulldown. There i specify wich input or output i want.
In mulab 9 i choose add module (audio input and audio output) and right click on the module and there is no edit option in the pulldown.
Is there an other way to do this or is it a bug?
/Rob
In mulab 8 i choose add module (audio input and audio output) and right click on the module and there is a edit option in the pulldown. There i specify wich input or output i want.
In mulab 9 i choose add module (audio input and audio output) and right click on the module and there is no edit option in the pulldown.
Is there an other way to do this or is it a bug?
/Rob
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- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
Well, In the project modular area it works with double click.
They are also named correctly in the PMA.
...But in the composer modular area i double click on the audio in/out modules and it prompts "nothing to edit".
In the CMA the inputs and outputs are just named "audio output 1" Audio input 1" etc
If everything worked correctly should it not be that the inputs and outputs in both PMA and CMA be named the same?
Am i missing something obvious here?
Is there a video or something in the DOC that explain the process?
Sorry for being stupid here but this is a mystery for me.
/Rob
They are also named correctly in the PMA.
...But in the composer modular area i double click on the audio in/out modules and it prompts "nothing to edit".
In the CMA the inputs and outputs are just named "audio output 1" Audio input 1" etc
If everything worked correctly should it not be that the inputs and outputs in both PMA and CMA be named the same?
Am i missing something obvious here?
Is there a video or something in the DOC that explain the process?
Sorry for being stupid here but this is a mystery for me.
/Rob
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- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
Only the IO modules in the PMA connect to the outside world. The IO modules in a MUX or Composer define the IO jacks of that MUX/Composer which you will see in the modular area where that MUX/Composer is plugged in and where you can connect them. That's all the same as in M8. I'll do my best to extend the docs where necessary.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
"Only the IO modules in the PMA connect to the outside world."
"The IO modules in a MUX or Composer define the IO jacks of that MUX/Composer which you will see in the modular area where that MUX/Composer is plugged in and where you can connect them." That's all the same as in M8.
I understand the words but they make no sense to me
Can somebody do a show and tell video or something because i just cant get this to work.
"I'll do my best to extend the docs where necessary."
That would be great.
It does not feel so intuitive to me. Is it possible to adjust the workflow a little?
"The IO modules in a MUX or Composer define the IO jacks of that MUX/Composer which you will see in the modular area where that MUX/Composer is plugged in and where you can connect them." That's all the same as in M8.
I understand the words but they make no sense to me
Can somebody do a show and tell video or something because i just cant get this to work.
"I'll do my best to extend the docs where necessary."
That would be great.
It does not feel so intuitive to me. Is it possible to adjust the workflow a little?
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- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
The principle of the MUX modular IO = If you add an audio input module in a MUX you will see in the upper/parent modular area that that MUX gets an extra audio input jack. That way you can add as many IO as you want to a MUX. Similar for audio out, event IO and modulation IO.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
Darn, Its not possible fo me to get this to work in any way thats easy to understand.
I used Mulab since my first licence on Mulab 2.5 so i am used to the user interface and i have learnd it good enough to use it on a near daily basis.
This is not possible for me to get to work in with anything less than a video or something.
Ok, i create a mux with the external IO port in it?
How? The only place i can see external IO is in PMA and there im pretty much locked in.
I cant in any obvious way find the IO's anywhere else.
Im using 9.0.38
For now i have to stay with Mulab 8 until i find the mental strength to try this again.
With that said, i really do love Mulab for its modular and straightforward workflow.
I'm just not in luck with this perticular IO problem right now and i hope that it will be easier in the future or that i somehow get smarter.
I used Mulab since my first licence on Mulab 2.5 so i am used to the user interface and i have learnd it good enough to use it on a near daily basis.
This is not possible for me to get to work in with anything less than a video or something.
Ok, i create a mux with the external IO port in it?
How? The only place i can see external IO is in PMA and there im pretty much locked in.
I cant in any obvious way find the IO's anywhere else.
Im using 9.0.38
For now i have to stay with Mulab 8 until i find the mental strength to try this again.
With that said, i really do love Mulab for its modular and straightforward workflow.
I'm just not in luck with this perticular IO problem right now and i hope that it will be easier in the future or that i somehow get smarter.
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- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
I'm confused by your confusion as the principle of modular IO all works the same in M9 as in M8.
Here is an existing video explaining how to setup global modulation for the PolySynth, see at 1:09 where a modulation input is added.
Note that in the Project Modular Area (not covered in this video), thus the most top modular level, the IO modules connect to the outside world, in MuLab App that's the audio device, in MuLab Plugin that's the host DAW.
Here is an existing video explaining how to setup global modulation for the PolySynth, see at 1:09 where a modulation input is added.
Note that in the Project Modular Area (not covered in this video), thus the most top modular level, the IO modules connect to the outside world, in MuLab App that's the audio device, in MuLab Plugin that's the host DAW.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 105 posts since 23 Apr, 2008
First of all i want to thank you for your time and patience and im sorry if im missing something obvious.
I hope that this picture explains what im after.
Pic 1e and 1f is where its problematic.
Pic 2e and 2f is as it works in mulab 8.
[attachment=0]Mulab trubbel.jpg[/attachment]
I hope that this picture explains what im after.
Pic 1e and 1f is where its problematic.
Pic 2e and 2f is as it works in mulab 8.
[attachment=0]Mulab trubbel.jpg[/attachment]
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dreammachine_nl dreammachine_nl https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=30537
- KVRist
- 60 posts since 23 Jun, 2004
Your last post clarifies your problem. Here we go:
In the Composer Modular Area, add a few Audio Inputs and Audio Outputs. See example:
Now in MuLab 9, since the Composer itself became a mux module, this module in my example now has 4 outputs and 4 inputs. This becomes apparent when you go to the Project Modular Area. The Composer Module now shows up with 4 input pins and 4 output pins.
One more step to go: in the PMA, create the inputs/outputs to the external world you want and connect them to the relevant pins. See example below:
In both the PMA and CMA you can rename the inputs/outputs for your convenience and clarity (just right click input/output module).
Steps 2e (outputs in rack) and 2f (track Target Modules) are now all available to you.
Cheers and good luck!
In the Composer Modular Area, add a few Audio Inputs and Audio Outputs. See example:
Now in MuLab 9, since the Composer itself became a mux module, this module in my example now has 4 outputs and 4 inputs. This becomes apparent when you go to the Project Modular Area. The Composer Module now shows up with 4 input pins and 4 output pins.
One more step to go: in the PMA, create the inputs/outputs to the external world you want and connect them to the relevant pins. See example below:
In both the PMA and CMA you can rename the inputs/outputs for your convenience and clarity (just right click input/output module).
Steps 2e (outputs in rack) and 2f (track Target Modules) are now all available to you.
Cheers and good luck!
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- KVRAF
- 13863 posts since 24 Jun, 2008 from Europe
So how to "copy" your project audio outs to the audio device into the composer:
* In the composer modular area create as many audio outs as you need.
Give them the same name as the project audio outputs.
* Now go up one modular level. Following your example you'll be in the project modular area now.
Now connect the audio outputs of the composer to the respective audio output modules in the project modular area.
Cfr Dreammachine_nl's post.
* In the composer modular area create as many audio outs as you need.
Give them the same name as the project audio outputs.
* Now go up one modular level. Following your example you'll be in the project modular area now.
Now connect the audio outputs of the composer to the respective audio output modules in the project modular area.
Cfr Dreammachine_nl's post.