Groove Synthesis 3rd Wave - New multi-timbral PPG-style wavetable Synthesizer in the works
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 1637 posts since 21 Dec, 2012
A new Synthesizer popped up on Instagram.
Groove Synthesis is working on 3rd Wave, a new multi-timbral PPG-style wavetable Synthesizer. So far we know it's 4x multi-timbral, 24 voices, 3 wavetable oscillators, 2 analog filters (SVF and Ladder lowpass), and more.
https://www.synthanatomy.com/2022/05/gr ... ptics.html
Groove Synthesis is working on 3rd Wave, a new multi-timbral PPG-style wavetable Synthesizer. So far we know it's 4x multi-timbral, 24 voices, 3 wavetable oscillators, 2 analog filters (SVF and Ladder lowpass), and more.
https://www.synthanatomy.com/2022/05/gr ... ptics.html
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- KVRAF
- 16395 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
- KVRAF
- 14992 posts since 26 Jun, 2006 from San Francisco Bay Area
Someone pointed out that in the short demo that it appeared to have polyphonic aftertouch. That makes it an instant buy for me, as I’ve been looking for something to replace my GEM S2. It’s awesome, but having something with a synth engine that I’d use would be great.
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- KVRAF
- 25446 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
If it captures the tone of the original, it will be a must buy for me.
What seemed like PolyAT could have also just been a regular keyboard split. Be awesome if it had PolyAT though! I guess minimum $5K cost.
What seemed like PolyAT could have also just been a regular keyboard split. Be awesome if it had PolyAT though! I guess minimum $5K cost.
- KVRAF
- 16395 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
That's cool that the GEM S2 has polyAT. I may need to get one to control my JD-XA. The JD-XA receives polyAT but its own keyboard doesn't do it.zerocrossing wrote: ↑Mon May 23, 2022 4:03 pm Someone pointed out that in the short demo that it appeared to have polyphonic aftertouch. That makes it an instant buy for me, as I’ve been looking for something to replace my GEM S2. It’s awesome, but having something with a synth engine that I’d use would be great.
- KVRAF
- 25446 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
- KVRAF
- 16395 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Is that more accurate sounding than the Waldorf M?
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- Banned
- 88 posts since 3 May, 2022
No, it sounds like a better version of the Waldorf PPG 3.V plugin and nothing like an original PPG in terms of grit and classic analog filters. The Waldorf M (and especially the original Waldorf MicroWave) are in a totally different class from what I just heard in that demo.
I think you'd be better off buying an Iridium keyboard than the 3rd Wave. Or just get a Waldorf MicroWave Xt.
- KVRAF
- 16395 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
How would you rank M, Quantum, Iridium, Microwave 1, and Microwave XT?
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- KVRist
- 397 posts since 3 Feb, 2017
Microwave 1 Rev A is the closest you can get to a real PPG.
This 3rd Wave doesn't sound nothing like it.
This 3rd Wave doesn't sound nothing like it.
- KVRAF
- 16395 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
How does M compare with Microwave 1 Rev A?
- KVRAF
- 3188 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota
Man I wish Wolfgang had released some more hardware before retiring.
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- KVRist
- 397 posts since 3 Feb, 2017
The M is modern sounding and it doesn't have that distinctive dark grainy sound the Microwave I has.
There is a difference between the Rev A and Rev B and the difference between the M and Rev A is obviously much bigger than that
It's really a matter of preference, but I like the MW 1 and XT and as far as the modern Waldorfs I love the Quantum. Those three cover all my Waldorf / PPG needs.
If I could only have one Waldorf I'd probably pick an M because of it doing a little bit of everything and all of the modern functions and portability.
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- Banned
- 88 posts since 3 May, 2022
The M is definitely the closest thing you'll find to the sound of a classic MicroWave I Rev A. But IMO, the new analog filters in the M sound way more "polite" than the CEM filter in the original MicroWave. Basically, the M's filters sound "modern analog" whereas the MicroWave filters sound like what you would expect in a 30 year old synth.
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- Banned
- 88 posts since 3 May, 2022
It's not surprising but all the nimrods on Gearspace are going ape shit for this 3rd Wave (more like third rate) synth. Saying it sounds incredible and amazing.
I have over 20 hardware synths so I tend to get excited by a new flagship hardware synth. But from what I heard in this intro video, the 3rd Wave doesn't sound any better than a Waldorf Iridium (which sounds good but not mind blowing).
I have over 20 hardware synths so I tend to get excited by a new flagship hardware synth. But from what I heard in this intro video, the 3rd Wave doesn't sound any better than a Waldorf Iridium (which sounds good but not mind blowing).