Syntronik 2 Discussions

[glokraw]

The best install tool is the de-archiver followed by drag-N-drop.
The best registration tool is Crtl-V. I doubt the cost of creating, developing and updating massive 'program managers' is a moneymaker. Better to spend that cost on better and new products.

Works for U-he They'll get my money, the $35 saved will be part of it.
(I do have and enjoy Syntronik 1, and ST3/4, but I dislike the inroads of copy protection, and user install control. As improved as it is, an improved wart-hog is still unwelcome here.)
Enjoy the great sounds!

[SHall1000]

I’ve often been told not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but in this case I can’t even get the bloody horse to open its mouth.

What are the chances are of getting my $49.99 back?

[jbl4311wx]

The Syner-V issue only affects that instrument, and then only some of the presets. You will see errors about missing pak (sample) files if there is a problem.

Sorry, it's hard to say for sure what's going on, but any uninstalled synths should have the normal install button. Synths that are already installed will show a green checkmark and ..More Options. Re-install library should only be needed if a "taster" version of the instrument was installed with limited presets.

Maybe check the following:
- You have registered the serial numbers for the individual libraries using register product in the IKPM?
- Syntronik 2 is installed and authorized?
- You can open the Syntronik 2 stand-alone executable in Windows? Are all the instruments visible and showing any presets?
- In Syntronik 2 settings (gear icon), are the library folder settings pointing to the correct folders?
- Try the "re-scan all" on the Library tab.

You might want to contact IK support directly, they should be able to get you sorted out.

[OllieBoi]

Yes, it's a bit of a pain, but I cannot see how any QA team could check every note in every instrument in these libraries, no matter whether the library is from IKM or another company.

Given their attention to detail, I can almost guarantee you that Spectrasonics checks every note in every one of their 14,000 Omnisphere patches to make sure there are no missing samples.

[glokraw]

Yes, it's a bit of a pain, but I cannot see how any QA team could check every note in every instrument in these libraries, no matter whether the library is from IKM or another company.

Given their attention to detail, I can almost guarantee you that Spectrasonics checks every note in every one of their 14,000 Omnisphere patches to make sure there are no missing samples.

The samplist should verify the sampling job is complete before moving on to sample another instrument. The tuner needs to work their controls before the samplist sets up, and the room maintainer needs the temperature and humidity optimized for what's getting tuned and sampled in the room. The person signing paychecks is the ultimate QA person. If people are excellent at their jobs, that's all the QA you need.
Not to mention a highly skilled player for each instrument to be sampled.

[glokraw]

I’ve often been told not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but in this case I can’t even get the bloody horse to open its mouth.

What are the chances are of getting my $49.99 back?

use kvr marketplace, after the dust settles for a few weeks...

[Flip64]

Very happy with Syntronik 2. I had jam points which brought the price down. The install wasn't the easiest but at least the product manager connected to IK each time (like Native Access has failed on in the past) and, well I figured it out. Vids on YT helped.

Sounds are very good, easy to edit in various ways. Multis are a strange mix - some ok, some badly mixed, some with grooves that don't...groove, arp patches with the arp switched off... But ultimately it's easy to set up my own and that's the big bonus - I didn't buy this for the presets particularly. And in the group buy it is incredible VFM.

[easyrider]

I have 4 Drives in my PC.

One is labeled Native Instruments, and that's where Native Access installs content by default, one (used to be) named "IK Multimedia" and that's where the SampleTank 3, 4, Philharmonik and Syntronik 1/2 content was installed. Once you do the initial install, all subsequent content installs will automatically suggest that location. I could literally keep my finger on the Enter Key and SampleTank expansion content would install to the correct location. The initial install location is written to the Registry, so future installs reference it.

There is literally 0 management involved in this. It manages itself. The only thing you have to do, is Label the Drive and set the content installation locations when you initially install the product (or in the Vendors Manager App - Native Access, UVI Portal, etc.).

Same for my other drive, labeled "EastWest." The Installation Manager just installs everything to the proper location once you set that in the settings.

I'm really just perplexed as to how any of this can be difficult or "hard to manage"...

For anyone who has used a PC this long. It was far more involved 20+ years ago.

You label your drives really?

Why would you want to do that?

Are you on windows?

[quo]

OK I'm done, I'm not downloading the bigger instruments.
There is no way the GS-V is worth 35GB of space.
Does anybody strongly recommend Syner-V, KW-8000, M-12, OSC-V or Pro-VS?
If anything Sytronik showed me how great MixBox is, grabbing that next sale fore sure.

[Teksonik]

OK I'm done, I'm not downloading the bigger instruments.

You might want to download and back up everything now in case you want to install them in the future. That way you'll avoid the re-download fee.

There is no way the GS-V is worth 35GB of space.Does anybody strongly recommend Syner-V, KW-8000, M-12, OSC-V or Pro-VS?

I can highly recommend the KW8000, Pro-VS, M-12, and SynerV. I like the GS-V but whether it's worth the disk space to you is something you'll have to decide.

I'd say install it to find out but although you can always delete the samples I'm not sure there is a way to keep the GS-V from showing up in the list on the left hand side of the GUI once it's installed.

If anything Sytronik showed me how great MixBox is, grabbing that next sale fore sure.

Make sure to demo it first. If I could get a great price on MixBox I'd probably pick it up as well but I'll test the heck out of it again first. Be aware of the fuzzy GUI issue that was reported long ago and has been ignored by IK.

[SHall1000]

I’ve not read the whole thread so this may have been raised before but after installing a few of the synth sounds in the IKPM all of the others are showing as installed when they are not! None of them will install and re-install does nothing.

OK. I figured out that my C:Drive had filled to the max with installation files which is why further installs were not happening. My bad.
However all the synths are still showing a green tick as installed when they are not. Luckily those that are not show the “X of Y files still pending” prompt next to them so they can be identified.
Posting for info in case anyone else has the same issue.

[DarkStar]

^^^^
I think that they are shown in the IKPM as "Installed" if you had previously installed the Syn2 CS library. The IKPM needs to be better at checking what's what.

[SHall1000]

Definitely didn’t install the CS version. All the synth suddenly showed as installed as I was part way through systematically installing each synth. Can’t recall the last one I installed before it happened.

[SHall1000]

Is there any benefit to backing up the zipped installation files over backing up the installed, unpacked libraries? Other than size of course.

[zzz00m]

Is there any benefit to backing up the zipped installation files over backing up the installed, unpacked libraries? Other than size of course.

I have deleted all of my zip files since I take a weekly image backup (similar to a clone, but saved as an image container file) of my sample drive (1TB+) with all of the installed/unpacked libraries from Syntronik, as well as all of my other sample libraries.

So hopefully I will never need the installers again. And it would be much, much faster and easier to restore this drive from an image rather than to reinstall everything from zip. The only downside to this method is that it requires another drive dedicated to storing the disk image files...