Mark, thanks for the additional products for me to check out. Always looking for something functional.ChameleonMusic wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 12:01 pmMIR (I know Jan on KVR uses it a lot) - I demo' d it for 30 days some time ago now...massively impressed by the results, but...wagtunes wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 10:20 amI'm curious. Do you own Vienna's MIR soundstage? I think it's quite realistic. If you don't have it, you might want to look into it.ChameleonMusic wrote: Thu May 26, 2022 9:39 amYeah, mixing balance is often down to personal taste without a doubt and there was nothing at all 'wrong' with the balance here as such - agreed 100%!wagtunes wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 3:07 pmI'm glad you brought up the vocals and the arrangement. I could talk about this arrangement for days. In fact, it took me 19 days to do this song.ChameleonMusic wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:30 pm Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore - love the intro / beginning...works very well!
Once more you've got - simple / catchy / hooky melodies nailed above appropriate and well constructed harmonies.
I would've liked the vocals to be a little more forward in the mix maybe?
Listen to Dan Fogelberg's Netherlands album. His engineer wanted to bring the vocals up more. Dan said no. He wanted it to be more like a symphony where no one instrument was dominant. I think Dan made the right call on this one as Netherlands is one of my all time favorite albums.
If you listen to my arrangement, you'll notice that not even the screaming lead guitar is dominant in the mix. At times, you can just about hear it. The vocals, IMO, are clear enough to get all the words. That's all that mattered to me.
I'm partial to those type of arrangements. Some of my favorite songs have somewhat quiet lead vocals with a big arrangement in the background. But I get that it's not everybody's cup of tea.
Anyway, thanks for the listen and the feedback. I really enjoyed doing this one.
I'm mildly obsessed with the 3D soundstage (probably comes from teaching the subject for too many years) and tend to get very precise about placement of sounds!![]()
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I really needed the full version for my orchestral work and at $600 x 2 PCs it was far too much, especially when you add in the individual room packs etc.
It def works with all VSTs, but is very much tailored to Vienna products which I don't use at all.
I also tried:
SPAT - fantastic, but even more expensive and extremely complex!
Virtual Soundstage 2 - very good indeed, but has a weird issue with reverb that I could never sort to my satisfaction.
I've developed my own 3D soundstage template / approach that I use now...bit clunky as it needs serious tweaks for some projects, but I've got used to it overall.
Good call though...I'll have a 2nd look at MIR and the alternatives to see if they've changed / updated etc since I last looked!
FWIW, you're a breath of fresh air to have around this place. I know I could learn a lot from you but I couldn't afford your fees.