no..clap is open source. I dont think apple will adopt thatPloki wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:29 amSo nothing unfortunately.Urs wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 10:03 am Nothing can permeate through the wrapper other than what those formats have to offer.
But let's be positive: With CLAP, it is actually easy to properly support NoteExpressions and have time stamped parameter changes. Its took us a day to get these implemented in our code base. There's still some way to go and some testing / optimising to do, but it is a start. So with a properly developed wrapper, we will finally have these features in VST3 as well.
Still i think it's better to opt for CLAP-to-AUv3, i don't think AUv2 will be alive for much longer.
Or hope that Apple supports CLAP if all other major DAWs will
CLAP 1.0 betas for ACE, Diva, Hive, MFM 2.5
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- KVRAF
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You realise Darwin is open source, right ?exmatproton wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:00 pm no..clap is open source. I dont think apple will adopt that
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- KVRAF
- 24415 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
WebKit, too...
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- KVRAF
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yeah, but i dont think they will adopt an open source container for music software. Maybe they will...but, i don't think so. Upper level components in Darwin aren't opensource (carbon for instance).koalaboy wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:02 pmYou realise Darwin is open source, right ?exmatproton wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:00 pm no..clap is open source. I dont think apple will adopt that
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Congratulations!
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- KVRian
- 657 posts since 2 May, 2002 from Kalispell, MT
The gods have spoken. Apparently, it's on sale.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:41 pmJeez...don't give them any ideas. I'm trying to keep money IN my wallet!GruvSyco wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:29 pm If they were smart, they'd put it on a CLAP introduction sale. I would probably jump. I've been messing with Bitwig 8 Track on and off for a week now and there is much to like.
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Oh for f*ck's sake! Bought.GruvSyco wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:47 pmThe gods have spoken. Apparently, it's on sale.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:41 pmJeez...don't give them any ideas. I'm trying to keep money IN my wallet!GruvSyco wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:29 pm If they were smart, they'd put it on a CLAP introduction sale. I would probably jump. I've been messing with Bitwig 8 Track on and off for a week now and there is much to like.
Thanks for the head's up.
...and not to dunk on Steinberg just for the sake of it, but I stopped updating Cubase as a result of some things I'm not happy with around VST2/VST3, have been happily using Reaper full-time for a few years now, and this is kind of where my "what otherwise would've been Cubase money" ended up going. I'm sure I'm the minority of "Cubase users" and some people love it, but the cooler company that is on board with this new standard (largely behind it) with the more fun, modern DAW got the money.
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- KVRAF
- 2034 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
Apple has no problem with open source. They have a problem with open source with a license that they cannot monetize. The MIT license does not have that issue.exmatproton wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:00 pm no..clap is open source. I dont think apple will adopt that
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
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- KVRAF
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Enjoy! Bitwig is a lot of fun!Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:01 pmOh for f*ck's sake! Bought.GruvSyco wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:47 pmThe gods have spoken. Apparently, it's on sale.Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:41 pmJeez...don't give them any ideas. I'm trying to keep money IN my wallet!GruvSyco wrote: Wed Jun 15, 2022 4:29 pm If they were smart, they'd put it on a CLAP introduction sale. I would probably jump. I've been messing with Bitwig 8 Track on and off for a week now and there is much to like.
Thanks for the head's up.
...and not to dunk on Steinberg just for the sake of it, but I stopped updating Cubase as a result of some things I'm not happy with around VST2/VST3, have been happily using Reaper full-time for a few years now, and this is kind of where my "what otherwise would've been Cubase money" ended up going. I'm sure I'm the minority of "Cubase users" and some people love it, but the cooler company that is on board with this new standard (largely behind it) with the more fun, modern DAW got the money.
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- KVRAF
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Found a bug in Hive CLAP (M1 Air Big Sur)
Copy-paste between Mod Matrix rows doesn't appear to be working.
Copy-paste between Mod Matrix rows doesn't appear to be working.
Always Read the Manual!
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- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Confirmed! (M1-Pro Monterey)PieBerger wrote: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:14 pm Found a bug in Hive CLAP (M1 Air Big Sur)
Copy-paste between Mod Matrix rows doesn't appear to be working.
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- KVRAF
- 3412 posts since 25 Apr, 2011
Confirmed. Win11, x64
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Is there a way to do audio rate modulation via Bitwig's polyphonic modulators? Would this work in Bazille?