Urs wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:37 pmOn day 3, the list of potential supporters of CLAP has doubled in size. Of those we have been contacted by.
CLAP... thoughts?
- KVRAF
- 24415 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
- KVRist
- 446 posts since 29 Apr, 2019
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- KVRAF
- 24415 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
No but really, Urs. Live update of the list of interested parties? 
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
With realtime rankings of who is expected to release CLAP on the earliest timeframeEvilDragon wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 7:50 pm No but really, Urs. Live update of the list of interested parties?![]()
- u-he
- 30208 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
- KVRist
- 446 posts since 29 Apr, 2019
The real meaning of CLAP -> shots fired.
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
ACE (CLAP) using Bitwig's ParSeq-8 per voice modulators to do some parameter sequencing. Couldn't do this in ACE before CLAP!
https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/CLAP-Ace-5.mp3
https://dandelionaudio.com/sound/CLAP-Ace-5.mp3
- KVRAF
- 26963 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
- KVRAF
- 7671 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
No, it’s not. An appeal to authority would be like if I said “Waves says VST3 is better, and Waves knows what they’re talking about.” What I’m saying here is there are many developers who are coding VST3 correctly and that is self-evident. EvilDragon is literally saying that no one is capable of coding a VST3 plugin correctly. That’s just not a credible claim, and it’s just silly to make it.BenfordLaw wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 8:55 amLOL. Appeal to authority fallacy. As if no software company has ever come up with a bad idea before, and then refused to admit they were wrong... (Windows 8's Start Menu, for example? Microsoft's 'Ribbon'? etc.)jamcat wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:15 pmOh come on now. That may be clever and snarky, but really you’re impugning the work of the leading audio software developers, which is neither fair nor credible.EvilDragon wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:50 pmThat's reaching quite a lot, considering what a mess VST3 is and its idea of "correct" is extremely, shall we say, open to interpretation.jamcat wrote: Sat Jun 18, 2022 8:34 pmwere coded competently and correctly from the start.
That would include most every plugin that any of us already own from top-tier developers.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
- KVRAF
- 24415 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
That is not what I literally said.
- KVRAF
- 7671 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
I can. Maybe Steinberg does it and calls it VST4 and effectively takes it over.Urs wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 2:43 pm Sure, people can just copy it and make their own version of CLAP. I just don't see any point in doing that.
THIS MUSIC HAS BEEN MIXED TO BE PLAYED LOUD SO TURN IT UP
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- KVRAF
- 3402 posts since 6 Nov, 2006
i see this is going as expected.. the thread is becoming about the thread itself instead of the topic. pedantic times.
anyway.. CLAP seems cool and has what appears to be an excellent start.
really hoping ableton jumps on board as maxforlive stuff w/CLAP plug ins would be dope.. as well as whatever else is cooking!
happy sunday.
anyway.. CLAP seems cool and has what appears to be an excellent start.
really hoping ableton jumps on board as maxforlive stuff w/CLAP plug ins would be dope.. as well as whatever else is cooking!
happy sunday.
- KVRAF
- 24415 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
That would be like admitting they were wrong all along. I don't see that happening, heheh.jamcat wrote: Sun Jun 19, 2022 10:06 pm Maybe Steinberg does it and calls it VST4 and effectively takes it over.
- u-he
- 30208 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
LOL, hahaha, yeah. I think that would be mission accomplished, if they see the license as a feature, and if they come back to communicate with developers like they were during the VST2 times.
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- KVRAF
- 4379 posts since 8 Mar, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
They can adopt it - but they can not "take it over" in the sense of taking it away from anyone else.
