KVR Audio

Shaetano · Post by **Shaetano** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:57 pm

felis wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:50 am Well, I'm a bit embarrassed that I didn't RTFM.
But in my defense, I tried that procedure several times before I saw your post,
and either I'm doing something wrong or it's a bug.
Either way, it will probably get sorted.

Have you updated your OB-E this week? 2.1 was released on Tuesday and it's needed for this to work.

Azbest · Post by **Azbest** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:05 pm

If it was a Two Voice, I'd buy it, maybe. The OB-E is too cluttered and sluggish to operate, for me.

felis · Post by **felis** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:21 pm

Shaetano wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:57 pm Have you updated your OB-E this week? 2.1 was released on Tuesday and it's needed for this to work.

Thank you so much.

I didn't know about the OB-E update.
It works now.

Effectsworks · Post by **Effectsworks** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:22 pm

BONES wrote: Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:30 pm bx_oberhausen is still the one to beat for me, still king of the hill.

I don't agree... The bass out of the SEM is subline.

This is the first emulation that actually gave me the feeling that I had when I owned the hardware.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:50 pm

World exclusive four voice

Incoming midi notes from daw into loomer architect (which aslo functions as a vst host and host four sems )
Giving each note a unique id ( routing it thru a switch ) which then triggers a sem
Four voice !!!

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:50 pm

sQeetz wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 11:21 amI own bx_0berhausen. and no... it's not quite there

Don't be ridicukous, bx_oberhausen has 32 voice unison, FFS, which puts it in a league of it's own, head and shoulders above anything else.

Wish there was some resell value to PA stuff.

Don't tell me you're the one who was stupid enough to pay full price? More fool you if you did.

chk071 wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 10:41 am TBH, the Gforce one is a lot more fun though... there's something more immediate than the bx_oberhausen, and it's more fun to tweak the sound for me.

"More immediate" how, exactly? The presets are certainly more playable, mostly, but patching each is hardly any different.

zvenx wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:11 pmFor me the ob-e is so much more ear candy to my ear anyway.

"So much more"? Seriously? They definitely don't sound the exactly the same but they are close enough as to make no difference, although if one has "more" than the other, it's going to be the one with 32 voice unison, mid/side routing and a full suite of effects. I'm sure your impressions are possibly being led by the money you spent.

felis · Post by **felis** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:58 pm

Shaetano wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 1:57 pm Have you updated your OB-E this week? 2.1 was released on Tuesday and it's needed for this to work.

I probably should write you in a PM, but I'll put it public in case it helps someone else.
There are two 'user' areas under OB-E presets - one for 'SEM Presets' and the other for 'SEQ Presets'.
I put them in the seq area by mistake. When I put them in the sem presets user area, they show up using the load button on the back panel.

Another embarrassing case of 'user error'.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:23 pm

Effectsworks wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:22 pmI don't agree... The bass out of the SEM is subline.

As it is in bx_oberhausen. I'm afraid I don't see your point.

This is the first emulation that actually gave me the feeling that I had when I owned the hardware.

I think your memory must be faulty, then, because they all sound like SEMs to me, only this one has an extra oscillator, so it sort of has to sound different (unless you put it into LFO mode, I suppose, assuming that stops it from outputting any sound).

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:42 pm

BONES wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:50 pmDon't tell me you're the one who was stupid enough to pay full price? More fool you if you did.

There was a time I did not understand PA's scheme. But at the time I got bx_oberhausen I got it for the regular price of roundabout 30 bucks.
Sound & CPU wise, it doesn't hold a candle to GForce's offering

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:46 pm

Azbest wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:05 pm If it was a Two Voice, I'd buy it, maybe. The OB-E is too cluttered and sluggish to operate, for me.

Just another reminder:

...OB-E can be made to look and work a lot like a polyphonic SEM by using the ZOOM button and GROUP feature.

Honestly, they probably should've made that the default mode as it's so much more comfortable to work in that view.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:47 pm

duplicate.

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:01 pm

There is one thing ting that's not cmopletely obvious to me
When you audio rate modulate the filter by vco 3( so vco as mod source ) and set mod env to env 2 in the vco 3 mod env section , it seems that the env 2 is added on top of the audio rate modulation ,so we get essential vco3 +env 2 as mod sources
I thought the modenv was used to scale the output of vco 3 , but you can clearly hear how env 2 also affects the filter

Effectsworks · Post by **Effectsworks** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:55 pm

BONES wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 3:23 pm
Effectsworks wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 2:22 pmI don't agree... The bass out of the SEM is subline.
As it is in bx_oberhausen. I'm afraid I don't see your point.
This is the first emulation that actually gave me the feeling that I had when I owned the hardware.
I think your memory must be faulty, then, because they all sound like SEMs to me, only this one has an extra oscillator, so it sort of has to sound different (unless you put it into LFO mode, I suppose, assuming that stops it from outputting any sound).

Like I say. I have all three emus and I had a SEM (hardware). Faulty memory or not I still prefer GForce's version by a mile. Arturia's is the worst.

But YMMV. And at the end of the day, who cares?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:57 pm

Effectsworks wrote: Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:55 pm Like I say. I have all three emus and I had a SEM (hardware). Faulty memory or not I still prefer GForce's version by a mile. Arturia's is the worst.

But YMMV. And at the end of the day, who cares?

Everyone who's serious about emulations?

Gforce Software Oberheim SEM